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<blockquote data-quote="OTE" data-source="post: 8179"><p>I didn't realize you were in NJ. A lot of what I mentioned above was in NJ. So what I said about the system is valid for you. If you want to pm what county you're in to me I can tell you if I was in court in that county...I was in North NJ. I had my kid in several RTCs in NJ so if you're looking for one let me know. If you're trying to get into the system to get the state to pay for Residential Treatment Center (RTC) let me know, I did that too.</p><p></p><p>The ability to turn on a dime and not remember the behavior is not classic BiPolar (BP). I guess it could be a manic psychotic state but I'd have that looked into more throoughly. That would really scare me. If he is in a psychotic state you can't predict what he will do. Next time that happens I'd call the cops immediately so they come to witness it. Any personal or property damage is grounds for them to come and for him to be admitted. You might have to fight for admission by saying you're scared to have him home because he's a danger to you and others in the house (if he's not still raging when he gets to ER). At this point you've got more than one incident like that so they should see it as a repetitive state.</p><p></p><p>Mine has been in a bunch of hospitals and I have yet to see one that allowed your private psychiatrist to treat him while in the psychiatric unit. Each hospital psychiatric unit has full time employee psychiatrists that do the treating, it's not like a medical ward where your doctor comes in each day. So I don't see why you had to move him except that few, VERY few hospitals in NJ have pediatrician psychiatric units. More likely it was an insurance issue and your insurance company only works with one or two of those few pediatrician psychiatric units in NJ. I know the private insur I had only worked with one hospital in NJ for pediatrician psychiatric and it was an hour north of me.</p><p></p><p>Mine was also in various alternative middle and HS in NJ so I can tell you something about those also.</p><p></p><p>Do you know about the parent support agency in Randolph that helps you with mentally ill kids? I didn't know about them at the time but they could be helpful to you. I also have some friends in NJ with kids in Residential Treatment Center (RTC) now so I can get recommendations if I don't know the one you're looking at.</p><p></p><p>Remember that the key to hospital treatment is that the child is:</p><p>1. danger to self</p><p>2. danger to others or</p><p>3. psychotic at the time he is in the ER... though I did have one occasion when he calmed down in the ambulance and cops were willing to convince ER that he was psychotic and needed to be admitted.</p><p></p><p>Don't know about your town but it's worth a call to local cops. Ask if they have a crisis unit within the police dept that could help you and/or a detective handling the juveniles who could help. </p><p></p><p>Don't count on a NJ PO to be any help.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="OTE, post: 8179"] I didn't realize you were in NJ. A lot of what I mentioned above was in NJ. So what I said about the system is valid for you. If you want to pm what county you're in to me I can tell you if I was in court in that county...I was in North NJ. I had my kid in several RTCs in NJ so if you're looking for one let me know. If you're trying to get into the system to get the state to pay for Residential Treatment Center (RTC) let me know, I did that too. The ability to turn on a dime and not remember the behavior is not classic BiPolar (BP). I guess it could be a manic psychotic state but I'd have that looked into more throoughly. That would really scare me. If he is in a psychotic state you can't predict what he will do. Next time that happens I'd call the cops immediately so they come to witness it. Any personal or property damage is grounds for them to come and for him to be admitted. You might have to fight for admission by saying you're scared to have him home because he's a danger to you and others in the house (if he's not still raging when he gets to ER). At this point you've got more than one incident like that so they should see it as a repetitive state. Mine has been in a bunch of hospitals and I have yet to see one that allowed your private psychiatrist to treat him while in the psychiatric unit. Each hospital psychiatric unit has full time employee psychiatrists that do the treating, it's not like a medical ward where your doctor comes in each day. So I don't see why you had to move him except that few, VERY few hospitals in NJ have pediatrician psychiatric units. More likely it was an insurance issue and your insurance company only works with one or two of those few pediatrician psychiatric units in NJ. I know the private insur I had only worked with one hospital in NJ for pediatrician psychiatric and it was an hour north of me. Mine was also in various alternative middle and HS in NJ so I can tell you something about those also. Do you know about the parent support agency in Randolph that helps you with mentally ill kids? I didn't know about them at the time but they could be helpful to you. I also have some friends in NJ with kids in Residential Treatment Center (RTC) now so I can get recommendations if I don't know the one you're looking at. Remember that the key to hospital treatment is that the child is: 1. danger to self 2. danger to others or 3. psychotic at the time he is in the ER... though I did have one occasion when he calmed down in the ambulance and cops were willing to convince ER that he was psychotic and needed to be admitted. Don't know about your town but it's worth a call to local cops. Ask if they have a crisis unit within the police dept that could help you and/or a detective handling the juveniles who could help. Don't count on a NJ PO to be any help. [/QUOTE]
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