hi So, i'm sorry i'm eating up the boards lately and thank you so much for everyone's help, thoughts, tips and guidance and calming on this one regarding easy child as of late. So, I got the school involved again. We have only met purely on academics, team meetings all last year, etc. Yet I said ok I need help finding a teenage support group thing. I spoke to one of her counselors, he was really nice, and i shared it all and laid it out to him. He stated that the way things were done, was not a "loving act" yet more of a servicing of sorts, with the ongoing instructional texts from friends during the it, and he was concerned as I was. To boot the continued failing grades, and now cutting classes. by the way he spotted her today cutting 8th period already! So, he's going to help, yea! I find the high school so much easier to deal with than the elementary school here. Their so much more willing to get their hands dirty, and try new appraoches and take responsiblity for these soon to be adults. He's going to talk to easy child first to try to gage her and what type of support group would be best for her. Than we'll get the list of names and places and go check them out. He also thought the volunteer work would be good, and the school holds certain things so i may just be able to incorporate it that way. We also discussed the extra cirricular actiivties and he agreed pulling her would be bad, that's a positive and we want to hold onto those right now. He said that years prior, at least here this sort of thing was not going on the "oral sex" , he said it's become so much more these past 5 years now. It's what girls do to avoid having regular sex, to please the guy, to "keep" the guy. He counsels a majority of the girls there in her grade. He said well we have a shot if no drugs are being used yet. I said nope i dont' think so, past two drugs tests returned clean. So, here's hoping. At least it's a start. It's difficult now with the holidays upon us to get anywhere with stuff, or line it up. This will all have to be implemented after the new year i'm guessing.