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<blockquote data-quote="SuZir" data-source="post: 655218" data-attributes="member: 14557"><p>While my kid thinks himself ugly and has few times uttered the idea that I should had aborted him, when extremely upset, it has been, with him, mostly just upset talking. So not much experience of the problems you are talking about. But I do have some experience with kid being very reluctant to try psychiatric drugs.</p><p></p><p>Around here they tend to have very bad rep. People feel that they are pushed to people even when they do not need them, as a first line treatment against the standard care guidelines and that doctors do not take side effects seriously. There is a lot of truth there. Pills are cheaper than therapy, so it is not uncommon that someone with moderate depression is given SSRIs without trying therapy first or even without therapy all together, though standard of care states that SSRIs should be used, if therapy doesn't help enough.</p><p></p><p>Also when SSRIs (and later all kinds of atypical anti-psychotics) came to market, they were marketed with having no/very little side effects, not being habit-forming and so on. And when there were side-effects, people felt their doctors didn't believe them. And still people often feel, that doctors do not take side-effects that lower their quality of life seriously enough. If they complain that they are gaining weight, they are told to eat less and sexual side-effects are often just shrugged away, even though people tend to consider for example loss of libido rather big quality of life thing. </p><p></p><p>When my kid was first time diagnosed with PTSD few years ago, he was very against medications, especially SSRIs. I think he was mostly scared of becoming fat and impotent. Over time his psychiatrist was able to talk him to try first a non-SSRI anxiety/depression drug with really a low side-effect profile and an allergy drug to help with sleep and later even to try SSRIs, to help the therapy to work better. My kid is rather science minded and this video and info it refers made an impression to him: [MEDIA=youtube]WIXEq8NJBwA[/MEDIA] His first SSRI wasn't a fit (though because he ended up losing weight rabidly, not because something he had been afraid of) but because it also helped him a bit, he was willing, if not eager, to try second one.</p><p></p><p>Nowadays he even voluntarily takes and atypical anti-psychotics every now and then prn (though I'm not sure how often he does take it, but at least at times, when he is feeling really bad) for anxiety and sleep. Of course when that drug was started, he was in hospital and not really in good enough shape to argue. And after he noticed that side effects at least at the low dose he is are tolerable for him, he has been okay with it.</p><p></p><p>With him a good psychiatrist has been a key. One who has listened to him and done her best to give him reasons why he would want to try a medication but not tried to force the issue. Being reluctant to use psychiatric drugs is not a rare phenomenon and good psychiatrists should be able to discuss about it with their patients and also explain and give them reasons why they could be worth a shot. Big thing with my kid at least was, that psychiatrist really took his concerns seriously and didn't try to gloss over the problems with psychiatric drugs. </p><p></p><p>If your son would agree to go, I would try to book a few psychiatrist visits with a good psychiatrist and tell already beforehand that he doesn't want drugs. There are other treatment methods beside drugs, and a psychiatrist should be used to treat also patients who are reluctant to try drugs and either come up the treatment plan without those or reason with patient why trying drugs could be an option.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SuZir, post: 655218, member: 14557"] While my kid thinks himself ugly and has few times uttered the idea that I should had aborted him, when extremely upset, it has been, with him, mostly just upset talking. So not much experience of the problems you are talking about. But I do have some experience with kid being very reluctant to try psychiatric drugs. Around here they tend to have very bad rep. People feel that they are pushed to people even when they do not need them, as a first line treatment against the standard care guidelines and that doctors do not take side effects seriously. There is a lot of truth there. Pills are cheaper than therapy, so it is not uncommon that someone with moderate depression is given SSRIs without trying therapy first or even without therapy all together, though standard of care states that SSRIs should be used, if therapy doesn't help enough. Also when SSRIs (and later all kinds of atypical anti-psychotics) came to market, they were marketed with having no/very little side effects, not being habit-forming and so on. And when there were side-effects, people felt their doctors didn't believe them. And still people often feel, that doctors do not take side-effects that lower their quality of life seriously enough. If they complain that they are gaining weight, they are told to eat less and sexual side-effects are often just shrugged away, even though people tend to consider for example loss of libido rather big quality of life thing. When my kid was first time diagnosed with PTSD few years ago, he was very against medications, especially SSRIs. I think he was mostly scared of becoming fat and impotent. Over time his psychiatrist was able to talk him to try first a non-SSRI anxiety/depression drug with really a low side-effect profile and an allergy drug to help with sleep and later even to try SSRIs, to help the therapy to work better. My kid is rather science minded and this video and info it refers made an impression to him: [MEDIA=youtube]WIXEq8NJBwA[/MEDIA] His first SSRI wasn't a fit (though because he ended up losing weight rabidly, not because something he had been afraid of) but because it also helped him a bit, he was willing, if not eager, to try second one. Nowadays he even voluntarily takes and atypical anti-psychotics every now and then prn (though I'm not sure how often he does take it, but at least at times, when he is feeling really bad) for anxiety and sleep. Of course when that drug was started, he was in hospital and not really in good enough shape to argue. And after he noticed that side effects at least at the low dose he is are tolerable for him, he has been okay with it. With him a good psychiatrist has been a key. One who has listened to him and done her best to give him reasons why he would want to try a medication but not tried to force the issue. Being reluctant to use psychiatric drugs is not a rare phenomenon and good psychiatrists should be able to discuss about it with their patients and also explain and give them reasons why they could be worth a shot. Big thing with my kid at least was, that psychiatrist really took his concerns seriously and didn't try to gloss over the problems with psychiatric drugs. If your son would agree to go, I would try to book a few psychiatrist visits with a good psychiatrist and tell already beforehand that he doesn't want drugs. There are other treatment methods beside drugs, and a psychiatrist should be used to treat also patients who are reluctant to try drugs and either come up the treatment plan without those or reason with patient why trying drugs could be an option. [/QUOTE]
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