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<blockquote data-quote="2much2recover" data-source="post: 640795" data-attributes="member: 18366"><p>Yes I have read both books and a ton more online - which between the therapists and the education I finally came to accept the conclusion that my daughter either is or has a very high scale in sociopath behavior. At that time I nearly had an emotional breakdown. It is extremely hard to face the fact that your child may be a sociopath - especially one that rates high on the scale. You may see me posts links to <a href="http://www.lovefraud.com" target="_blank">www.lovefraud.com</a> as this site where I also go to learn more about the sociopathic mind. </p><p>When I found this site I first posted about how my daughter stole from me in a business investment. The reason I went no contact again as she was beginning to show her cards about trying to get me to invest with her again. I could see and feel the manipulation coming. See what she was angling for.</p><p>Before I went no contact for 4 years (and accepted that I was dealing with a sociopath) I told her that we could not have a relationship again until we both dealt with our issues together in therapy. This is because she is an angry bully/charming manipulator - notice I reversed them - that is because she changed and adapted - when I would no longer put up with the anger and bullying - then came the charm and the manipulations - of course all go around the merry-go-round depending on which one will serve her at any given time. After my sister who I was guardian for passed I was really depressed and extremely sick and physically weak. I could hardly eat are drink and my weight plummeted. Well daughter came to my sisters funeral and saw the difference in me and I am sure she saw me in a weak position. The next thing you know she is showing up with food to help get me to eat (I couldn't) This was also at the time I decided to come off the opiate pain medications. So as you can imagine I was weak emotionally, mentally and physically. So when she showed up I just didn't think about the boundary that I had put up before the 4 year dis-connect. Nor was I in the frame at mind - in the beginning to think about all I had discovered about sociopaths.</p><p></p><p>While I was in contact for a little over a year, I just avoided talking about the money and did a lot of listen! Remember we never talked about the money issues, the big elephant in the room, but as she started to circle me like a shark ready to strike to hustle me in to another money scam I was ready and I pounced instead, confronting her with everything she did and how she stole from me. I let her know there would be no more money deals between her and I. Also what nerve, I am permanently disabled not only with a chronic pain diagnosis but other health issues as well. Any money my husband and I do have has to go for our own health and well being. (this is why also I will remind other people on these boards to think about their financial situation <em>for themselves </em>in the future. No one plans on becoming disabled when they are dealing with all the other crap difficult children bring!) When I started the business with my daughter it was suppose to be to bring me in <em>extra money in disability</em>. So if you don't think that is a sociopath - a person who will steal the financial well being of her disabled mother I don't know what is. </p><p>Still it took me a long time to accept "she is what she is"</p><p>There are those times when it just kicks me in the gut to be the opposite of my child and know that yeah, like someone who has "lost" their child in another way, mine is lost to me. It's at times, a living hell of grief and heartbreak.</p><p>I don't think I will ever "get over it". I think I will just have times where it really hurts me and times where I don't even think about it. But be over it? I don't think I will ever get over it. I think it is extremely hard for anyone - no matter what the relationship, to recover from dealing with a sociopath. Mental health providers study them for a reason, because they wreck havoc on so many victims and yes their families are usually their first victims.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="2much2recover, post: 640795, member: 18366"] Yes I have read both books and a ton more online - which between the therapists and the education I finally came to accept the conclusion that my daughter either is or has a very high scale in sociopath behavior. At that time I nearly had an emotional breakdown. It is extremely hard to face the fact that your child may be a sociopath - especially one that rates high on the scale. You may see me posts links to [url="http://www.lovefraud.com"]www.lovefraud.com[/url] as this site where I also go to learn more about the sociopathic mind. When I found this site I first posted about how my daughter stole from me in a business investment. The reason I went no contact again as she was beginning to show her cards about trying to get me to invest with her again. I could see and feel the manipulation coming. See what she was angling for. Before I went no contact for 4 years (and accepted that I was dealing with a sociopath) I told her that we could not have a relationship again until we both dealt with our issues together in therapy. This is because she is an angry bully/charming manipulator - notice I reversed them - that is because she changed and adapted - when I would no longer put up with the anger and bullying - then came the charm and the manipulations - of course all go around the merry-go-round depending on which one will serve her at any given time. After my sister who I was guardian for passed I was really depressed and extremely sick and physically weak. I could hardly eat are drink and my weight plummeted. Well daughter came to my sisters funeral and saw the difference in me and I am sure she saw me in a weak position. The next thing you know she is showing up with food to help get me to eat (I couldn't) This was also at the time I decided to come off the opiate pain medications. So as you can imagine I was weak emotionally, mentally and physically. So when she showed up I just didn't think about the boundary that I had put up before the 4 year dis-connect. Nor was I in the frame at mind - in the beginning to think about all I had discovered about sociopaths. While I was in contact for a little over a year, I just avoided talking about the money and did a lot of listen! Remember we never talked about the money issues, the big elephant in the room, but as she started to circle me like a shark ready to strike to hustle me in to another money scam I was ready and I pounced instead, confronting her with everything she did and how she stole from me. I let her know there would be no more money deals between her and I. Also what nerve, I am permanently disabled not only with a chronic pain diagnosis but other health issues as well. Any money my husband and I do have has to go for our own health and well being. (this is why also I will remind other people on these boards to think about their financial situation [I]for themselves [/I]in the future. No one plans on becoming disabled when they are dealing with all the other crap difficult children bring!) When I started the business with my daughter it was suppose to be to bring me in [I]extra money in disability[/I]. So if you don't think that is a sociopath - a person who will steal the financial well being of her disabled mother I don't know what is. Still it took me a long time to accept "she is what she is" There are those times when it just kicks me in the gut to be the opposite of my child and know that yeah, like someone who has "lost" their child in another way, mine is lost to me. It's at times, a living hell of grief and heartbreak. I don't think I will ever "get over it". I think I will just have times where it really hurts me and times where I don't even think about it. But be over it? I don't think I will ever get over it. I think it is extremely hard for anyone - no matter what the relationship, to recover from dealing with a sociopath. Mental health providers study them for a reason, because they wreck havoc on so many victims and yes their families are usually their first victims. [/QUOTE]
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