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<blockquote data-quote="DammitJanet" data-source="post: 629848" data-attributes="member: 1514"><p>Cedar I would have difficulty with the grands myself. </p><p></p><p>One thing when you are thinking about how you could or should think about your daughter as strong and able and responsible when she really isnt remember, I never told my father when I was having any problems. I dont know what he would have done if I had gone running to him with every little problem. Most likely told me to grow my ass up...lol. </p><p></p><p>I was born a late child to parents who were born in the 20's. Most likely your parents are my parents ages. My parents had a very no nonsense way of thinking about some things. They lived through the Great Depression and WWII. My father lied his way into joining the Marines when he was almost 17 years old so he could serve. Funny thing is Jamie graduated Parris Island exactly 60 years to the month from when my father did. How is that for irony?</p><p></p><p>I was a troublesome child and teen. I had some very good reasons for it. I know I have written about it before so I wont repeat myself. After I grew up I didnt want my father to think of me in the same way. I had a hard time with that because my mom did her level best to tell the world how bad I was. She would write him letters telling him the most awful lies. Heck she wrote my bosses, the cops, the FBI and even the President...lol. My mom was seriously crazy. My psychiatrist and therapists have figured that she most likely had schizoaffective disorder. She could act normal as all get out but then she was really crazy as a loon. </p><p></p><p>That did have a really bad effect on me that I have been trying to get over my whole life. She tried to turn me against my father as a child and it worked until I got old enough to know the man for himself. He wasnt a saint and he had his own issues. He was raised in a rough time in a Catholic family where his father only came home to make another child. He grew up extremely poor however all of his brothers except the youngest who has some sort of developmental disability have done very well for themselves. He made a pact with himself early on that he would be a good father by providing money for me. Unfortunately that kept him out of the house for long portions of time and I would have rather had him around than all the money in the world. He always said I love you with money. I learned to understand that was how he was able to say it. Later in life he did get better with words. I will never forget that the week before he died he called my house and we had a very good talk. He was quite lucid. Monkey was there (she was 4) and he talked to her for a pretty long time for her at that age. I think he kinda knew he wouldnt see her again. He told her to always remember she was so special to him and that she would always be his wonderful princess no matter what happened in life. That was the last time they spoke.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DammitJanet, post: 629848, member: 1514"] Cedar I would have difficulty with the grands myself. One thing when you are thinking about how you could or should think about your daughter as strong and able and responsible when she really isnt remember, I never told my father when I was having any problems. I dont know what he would have done if I had gone running to him with every little problem. Most likely told me to grow my ass up...lol. I was born a late child to parents who were born in the 20's. Most likely your parents are my parents ages. My parents had a very no nonsense way of thinking about some things. They lived through the Great Depression and WWII. My father lied his way into joining the Marines when he was almost 17 years old so he could serve. Funny thing is Jamie graduated Parris Island exactly 60 years to the month from when my father did. How is that for irony? I was a troublesome child and teen. I had some very good reasons for it. I know I have written about it before so I wont repeat myself. After I grew up I didnt want my father to think of me in the same way. I had a hard time with that because my mom did her level best to tell the world how bad I was. She would write him letters telling him the most awful lies. Heck she wrote my bosses, the cops, the FBI and even the President...lol. My mom was seriously crazy. My psychiatrist and therapists have figured that she most likely had schizoaffective disorder. She could act normal as all get out but then she was really crazy as a loon. That did have a really bad effect on me that I have been trying to get over my whole life. She tried to turn me against my father as a child and it worked until I got old enough to know the man for himself. He wasnt a saint and he had his own issues. He was raised in a rough time in a Catholic family where his father only came home to make another child. He grew up extremely poor however all of his brothers except the youngest who has some sort of developmental disability have done very well for themselves. He made a pact with himself early on that he would be a good father by providing money for me. Unfortunately that kept him out of the house for long portions of time and I would have rather had him around than all the money in the world. He always said I love you with money. I learned to understand that was how he was able to say it. Later in life he did get better with words. I will never forget that the week before he died he called my house and we had a very good talk. He was quite lucid. Monkey was there (she was 4) and he talked to her for a pretty long time for her at that age. I think he kinda knew he wouldnt see her again. He told her to always remember she was so special to him and that she would always be his wonderful princess no matter what happened in life. That was the last time they spoke. [/QUOTE]
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