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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 655764" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>I grew up as a professor's kid in a college town. The college was, and still is, the major employer here and the driving economic force in this town. My mom had students from frats and sororities in her classes and at one time wished I would meet and date a 'nice' boy from a specific frat. She knew several members as advisor to a club and liked them. They had great manners, good grades and seemed like good people. I told her flat out that I would not EVER even go on a blind date with someone from that group.</p><p></p><p>Their manners are a sham. The grades come from test banks and people paid to help them write papers, meaning to write them for the student for serious $$ (I know this for a fact because years later when I had some expenses I couldn't ask my folks to pay, I wrote those papers.) and they had zero morals about anything. One of the wildest guys I ever knew, who was generally up for ANYTHING esp anything sexual, dropped out of pledging this group because of the disgusting sexual things they did to ANY female who happened to be around when an urge hit. Underage girls, unwilling girls, date rape drugs, filming things and passing the films around like baseball cards, NOTHING was truly off limits. They simply bought their way out of things. I had a classmate who was engaged to a member of this group when her fiance drugged her and let every member of the group have her. Then she was 'sullied' and he broke off the engagement a month before the wedding in an ugly public way (at her church no less).</p><p></p><p>This was the worst group, but most of them have at least some of these problems and they feel fully entitled to do whatever they want. Hazing is illegal so now it is called 'voluntary initiation rituals" but if you decline and are not Mary Lou Retton, you are out.</p><p></p><p>Sororities are also pretty sick, in my opinion. Back when I first went to college I worked at a Kinko's and worked on copying pledge manuals for many sororities. Girls are told how to do everything from what color to dye their hair, what brands of makeup and clothing they can/can't use, who they can date, etc... They are vicious in tearing each other down, many of them TEACH girls how to become anorexic or bulimic and see nothing wrong with this. I never could figure out why anyone would want to be part of this.</p><p></p><p>I worked with several girls who had been in sororities. One quit after being vice pres of her sorority after they ridicule and harassed her younger sister and then threw her out because she was 'too fat' and 'ugly'. She was astounded at the lengths her 'sisters' went to in order to destroy her sister. This sister was a model for many local and state publications, was not even close to fat, and was just a really sweet person. It took her several years of therapy to cope with the abuse of just five or six weeks of pledging a sorority. </p><p></p><p>When I went to school out of state I avoided the Greek system. I could have pledged an gotten in as my childhood BFF's mom was eager to help me. I wasn't really a joiner, so I didn't ask for her help. One of my friends was a super smart but rather geeky and awkward guy. Not handsome, but a very caring and sweet person. Four members of a sorority appeared to take a liking to him. They buttered him up for about a month, going out with him, inviting him places, telling him how handsome he was. Then they invited him to a dance as one girl's date. He was told it was formal, so he rented a tux, bought a corsage, really went all the way. At that dance they pretended they didn't know him an that he was 'forcing' his attention on them. Several frat boys beat the living heck out of him. He spent two days in the hospital for injuries. Then when he went back to his dorm these girls set out on a hate campaign against him. He almost succeeded in killing himself two weeks later. He eventually got a degree from another university, but he was never the same. He NEVER even approached these girls or tried to speak to them until they poured on the charm and worked to convince him that they were interested in him. They targeted him to see if they could destroy him, just for fun. I know because I heard them laughing and bragging about it later. They thought it was great fun, especially after he tried to hurt himself. they thought he should have succeeded for DARING to think they might like him in any way. </p><p></p><p>My childhood BFF adored her sorority. I met some of the girls and they seemed nice but vapid. I never did get the attraction, but her sorority was better than many that I have seen. but few are really nice groups in my opinion. I have just seen them do too many ugly things a nd feel they were completely entitled to do these things with-o consequences. The sorority that targeted my friend didn't even get a warning until an active dropped out an told the cops some of the things they had done and she had photos and notes to prove what they were doing. They did get some criminal charges but their parents bought them out of trouble with the DA and with their organization.</p><p></p><p>I have no use for these groups and would not contribute to one of my kids joining a traditional Greek sorority or fraternity.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 655764, member: 1233"] I grew up as a professor's kid in a college town. The college was, and still is, the major employer here and the driving economic force in this town. My mom had students from frats and sororities in her classes and at one time wished I would meet and date a 'nice' boy from a specific frat. She knew several members as advisor to a club and liked them. They had great manners, good grades and seemed like good people. I told her flat out that I would not EVER even go on a blind date with someone from that group. Their manners are a sham. The grades come from test banks and people paid to help them write papers, meaning to write them for the student for serious $$ (I know this for a fact because years later when I had some expenses I couldn't ask my folks to pay, I wrote those papers.) and they had zero morals about anything. One of the wildest guys I ever knew, who was generally up for ANYTHING esp anything sexual, dropped out of pledging this group because of the disgusting sexual things they did to ANY female who happened to be around when an urge hit. Underage girls, unwilling girls, date rape drugs, filming things and passing the films around like baseball cards, NOTHING was truly off limits. They simply bought their way out of things. I had a classmate who was engaged to a member of this group when her fiance drugged her and let every member of the group have her. Then she was 'sullied' and he broke off the engagement a month before the wedding in an ugly public way (at her church no less). This was the worst group, but most of them have at least some of these problems and they feel fully entitled to do whatever they want. Hazing is illegal so now it is called 'voluntary initiation rituals" but if you decline and are not Mary Lou Retton, you are out. Sororities are also pretty sick, in my opinion. Back when I first went to college I worked at a Kinko's and worked on copying pledge manuals for many sororities. Girls are told how to do everything from what color to dye their hair, what brands of makeup and clothing they can/can't use, who they can date, etc... They are vicious in tearing each other down, many of them TEACH girls how to become anorexic or bulimic and see nothing wrong with this. I never could figure out why anyone would want to be part of this. I worked with several girls who had been in sororities. One quit after being vice pres of her sorority after they ridicule and harassed her younger sister and then threw her out because she was 'too fat' and 'ugly'. She was astounded at the lengths her 'sisters' went to in order to destroy her sister. This sister was a model for many local and state publications, was not even close to fat, and was just a really sweet person. It took her several years of therapy to cope with the abuse of just five or six weeks of pledging a sorority. When I went to school out of state I avoided the Greek system. I could have pledged an gotten in as my childhood BFF's mom was eager to help me. I wasn't really a joiner, so I didn't ask for her help. One of my friends was a super smart but rather geeky and awkward guy. Not handsome, but a very caring and sweet person. Four members of a sorority appeared to take a liking to him. They buttered him up for about a month, going out with him, inviting him places, telling him how handsome he was. Then they invited him to a dance as one girl's date. He was told it was formal, so he rented a tux, bought a corsage, really went all the way. At that dance they pretended they didn't know him an that he was 'forcing' his attention on them. Several frat boys beat the living heck out of him. He spent two days in the hospital for injuries. Then when he went back to his dorm these girls set out on a hate campaign against him. He almost succeeded in killing himself two weeks later. He eventually got a degree from another university, but he was never the same. He NEVER even approached these girls or tried to speak to them until they poured on the charm and worked to convince him that they were interested in him. They targeted him to see if they could destroy him, just for fun. I know because I heard them laughing and bragging about it later. They thought it was great fun, especially after he tried to hurt himself. they thought he should have succeeded for DARING to think they might like him in any way. My childhood BFF adored her sorority. I met some of the girls and they seemed nice but vapid. I never did get the attraction, but her sorority was better than many that I have seen. but few are really nice groups in my opinion. I have just seen them do too many ugly things a nd feel they were completely entitled to do these things with-o consequences. The sorority that targeted my friend didn't even get a warning until an active dropped out an told the cops some of the things they had done and she had photos and notes to prove what they were doing. They did get some criminal charges but their parents bought them out of trouble with the DA and with their organization. I have no use for these groups and would not contribute to one of my kids joining a traditional Greek sorority or fraternity. [/QUOTE]
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