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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 65763" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>You don't have to chill things off for long. I remember being taught that a matter of hours was all that was needed. To be safe, I would wait three days minimum before doing the laundry, leaving the clothes/linen/towels at room temperature in the laundry tub. Overnight in the freezer is all you need for hairbrushes, and they're the worst reinfecters. And by overnight, I mean shove them in at bedtime, then get the brush out in the morning to do hair before school - it will be OK.</p><p></p><p>The bedroom - you can turn off the A/C now. You're way past the three day mark. No need to bag anything, dead is dead. They are parasites, ectoparasites (ie outside the body), to be sure, but obligate parasites all the same. Obligate parasites have absolutely no choice but to live in close contact with their host. Without a live host, they die fairly quickly. If you're doing a kid's hair and a louse drops to the floor, it can't survive on the dog or cat - trying to feed off the pets will kill the louse. And unless it can hitch a ride on a human AND get up to the head within a few hours, it's dead.</p><p></p><p>Conditioner is great for slowing the little beggars down.</p><p></p><p>Sounds like the biggest success was with Esther's method, that of laboriously checking the hair in the bath, on an almost daily basis.</p><p></p><p>Something I meant to mention, as a super aid to those trying to treat thick or tangly hair - there is a new product (for us) which is a comb-through anti-tangling serum. The instructions say to squirt a single dose onto the hair after washing, while hair is still wet. We found that far too much - plus when I had long hair, I needed the anti-tangle a few days later. So I found if I put a single drop on the hair brush I could distribute it through my hair and it was amazing - badly wind-knotted hair would be untangled within two brush strokes!</p><p></p><p>So if you need some extra help either checking kids' hair, or combing it through (especially the comb-through of dry hair, looking for and removing the nits) then try and get hold of this stuff. It comes in a clear round bottle (as in round, like a little globe) and I DON'T use the pump on top, it dispenses far too much. It's about $15 a bottle, for us, but used sparingly it can last a year or more. It's called Garnier Fructis sleek & shine smoothing serum, but if you can lay your hands on a similar product, it should do the job. I wish we'd had it when I was a kid and had to spend hours, literally, getting grass seeds and dreadlocks combed from my hair. </p><p>I suspect it would also suffocate lice to a certain extent, since this stuff spreads so incredibly thinly, distributes so far through the hair but coats everything. Lice are arachnids, related to spiders, but I think they have the same breathing system as insects (breathing through holes in their bodies) which, if the holes get covered up, will kill them. it's probably how t-tree oil is supposed to work, but this stuff spreads much further than ti-tree.</p><p></p><p>But don't use it as a primary treatment/insecticide, just look on any kill rate as a bonus. Use it to de-tangle, to make the comb-through easier and quicker.</p><p></p><p>We live in a world full of organisms too small to see. We shouldn't try to eliminate them all because we need a lot of them. If you live too 'clean' you get sick. It can aggravate allergies, because your immune system has nothing to fight so it fights itself. Give your immune system a job to do and it will be better fit to keep you well when the nasty bugs come round (like the flu that is hitting Australia now - it's lethal, kids are dying).</p><p></p><p>protect against the nasty stuff, the stuff that causes discomfort, but otherwise let the kids run barefoot and play with the dog. Washing hands is the best protection, rather than washing everything else.</p><p></p><p>And for lice - prevention and regular monitoring (Esther-style) is the way to keep that problem to a minimum. If you exhaust yourself with house cleaning, you will be too tired to focus your vigilance on the kids' heads, where it needs to be. And you will run out of the nit shampoo if you wash everything in it! Save it for the heads. They can't be shoved into the freezer overnight.</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 65763, member: 1991"] You don't have to chill things off for long. I remember being taught that a matter of hours was all that was needed. To be safe, I would wait three days minimum before doing the laundry, leaving the clothes/linen/towels at room temperature in the laundry tub. Overnight in the freezer is all you need for hairbrushes, and they're the worst reinfecters. And by overnight, I mean shove them in at bedtime, then get the brush out in the morning to do hair before school - it will be OK. The bedroom - you can turn off the A/C now. You're way past the three day mark. No need to bag anything, dead is dead. They are parasites, ectoparasites (ie outside the body), to be sure, but obligate parasites all the same. Obligate parasites have absolutely no choice but to live in close contact with their host. Without a live host, they die fairly quickly. If you're doing a kid's hair and a louse drops to the floor, it can't survive on the dog or cat - trying to feed off the pets will kill the louse. And unless it can hitch a ride on a human AND get up to the head within a few hours, it's dead. Conditioner is great for slowing the little beggars down. Sounds like the biggest success was with Esther's method, that of laboriously checking the hair in the bath, on an almost daily basis. Something I meant to mention, as a super aid to those trying to treat thick or tangly hair - there is a new product (for us) which is a comb-through anti-tangling serum. The instructions say to squirt a single dose onto the hair after washing, while hair is still wet. We found that far too much - plus when I had long hair, I needed the anti-tangle a few days later. So I found if I put a single drop on the hair brush I could distribute it through my hair and it was amazing - badly wind-knotted hair would be untangled within two brush strokes! So if you need some extra help either checking kids' hair, or combing it through (especially the comb-through of dry hair, looking for and removing the nits) then try and get hold of this stuff. It comes in a clear round bottle (as in round, like a little globe) and I DON'T use the pump on top, it dispenses far too much. It's about $15 a bottle, for us, but used sparingly it can last a year or more. It's called Garnier Fructis sleek & shine smoothing serum, but if you can lay your hands on a similar product, it should do the job. I wish we'd had it when I was a kid and had to spend hours, literally, getting grass seeds and dreadlocks combed from my hair. I suspect it would also suffocate lice to a certain extent, since this stuff spreads so incredibly thinly, distributes so far through the hair but coats everything. Lice are arachnids, related to spiders, but I think they have the same breathing system as insects (breathing through holes in their bodies) which, if the holes get covered up, will kill them. it's probably how t-tree oil is supposed to work, but this stuff spreads much further than ti-tree. But don't use it as a primary treatment/insecticide, just look on any kill rate as a bonus. Use it to de-tangle, to make the comb-through easier and quicker. We live in a world full of organisms too small to see. We shouldn't try to eliminate them all because we need a lot of them. If you live too 'clean' you get sick. It can aggravate allergies, because your immune system has nothing to fight so it fights itself. Give your immune system a job to do and it will be better fit to keep you well when the nasty bugs come round (like the flu that is hitting Australia now - it's lethal, kids are dying). protect against the nasty stuff, the stuff that causes discomfort, but otherwise let the kids run barefoot and play with the dog. Washing hands is the best protection, rather than washing everything else. And for lice - prevention and regular monitoring (Esther-style) is the way to keep that problem to a minimum. If you exhaust yourself with house cleaning, you will be too tired to focus your vigilance on the kids' heads, where it needs to be. And you will run out of the nit shampoo if you wash everything in it! Save it for the heads. They can't be shoved into the freezer overnight. Marg [/QUOTE]
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