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<blockquote data-quote="BusynMember" data-source="post: 718693" data-attributes="member: 1550"><p>Addiction is ugly. The symptoms many of our kids demonstrate are similar. What causes addiction? We do know a tendency to become addicted seems to be hereditary. But if one chooses not to experiment, no addict, right? I have two kids with severe addictionn in birth family, but they never were interested in using substances, pot included. My autistic spectrum son was born with crack in his system. He was the fifth biological child his birthmother had who was drug exposed. My yoingest's birh father spent many stints in prison due to serious drug crimes, like armed robbery. His birth daughter is going to school to become a cop. My oldest daughter used and we dont know her birth family history.</p><p></p><p>Does mental illness cause addiction? Lots of self medicating. My daughter who used was diagnosed with bipolar while using. She has been off the meth/cocaine for a decade and clearly is not bipolar. Anxiety? I think I read 10% of the population had anxiety disorders but not all use drugs to self medicate. Depression is also common but not always self medicated. Peer pressure? This was huge for my shy oldest daughter who knew that drug use would make her popular with certain kids. Throw shyness in there. But not everyone who is shy. So is there a commpn thread?</p><p></p><p>Psychiatry knows and doesnt know how to diagnose and treat anything. I had serious mood disorders since childhood and have been a patient since age 23. I have HAD LOTS of psychiatrists and psychologists and trialed on more medications than I have fingers. It took ten years to find medications that truly worked. </p><p></p><p>For me, psychiatrists all diagnosed various mood disorders but I got different mood disorder names and anxiety labels. If I had been born today I would have probably also have been hit with ADHD and ODD (I freaked out at NO) and who knows what else. Different therapists took different approaches. Cbt was new when I first started it and it helped but not enough. I needed medications too. I think the newer dialectal behavioral therapy is better thsn CBT. In the U.S. it is in high demand and it is hard to get it...at least where I live. But I am older now and became very spiritual (not religious) and this changede me profoundly, more than all the therapy I have had. I rarely go anymore. The key for me was learning to trust the universe. Helped more than years of therapy. You never can predict what will help somebody. Or not.</p><p></p><p>I feel frustrated for those still struggling with adult kids who are addicted and suspected with some mental illness too. There is so much to still learn and not enough concrete ways to diagnose and treat. Mental illness diagnosis and treatments change as fast as the type of phones we use. It is far from an exact science yet. I speak as a long term patient. I have seen psychiatry change so much and so fast in forty years...and yet there is still no test to prove a diagnoses. And there is less shame now, but there is still shame and stigma.</p><p></p><p>Such a mess...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BusynMember, post: 718693, member: 1550"] Addiction is ugly. The symptoms many of our kids demonstrate are similar. What causes addiction? We do know a tendency to become addicted seems to be hereditary. But if one chooses not to experiment, no addict, right? I have two kids with severe addictionn in birth family, but they never were interested in using substances, pot included. My autistic spectrum son was born with crack in his system. He was the fifth biological child his birthmother had who was drug exposed. My yoingest's birh father spent many stints in prison due to serious drug crimes, like armed robbery. His birth daughter is going to school to become a cop. My oldest daughter used and we dont know her birth family history. Does mental illness cause addiction? Lots of self medicating. My daughter who used was diagnosed with bipolar while using. She has been off the meth/cocaine for a decade and clearly is not bipolar. Anxiety? I think I read 10% of the population had anxiety disorders but not all use drugs to self medicate. Depression is also common but not always self medicated. Peer pressure? This was huge for my shy oldest daughter who knew that drug use would make her popular with certain kids. Throw shyness in there. But not everyone who is shy. So is there a commpn thread? Psychiatry knows and doesnt know how to diagnose and treat anything. I had serious mood disorders since childhood and have been a patient since age 23. I have HAD LOTS of psychiatrists and psychologists and trialed on more medications than I have fingers. It took ten years to find medications that truly worked. For me, psychiatrists all diagnosed various mood disorders but I got different mood disorder names and anxiety labels. If I had been born today I would have probably also have been hit with ADHD and ODD (I freaked out at NO) and who knows what else. Different therapists took different approaches. Cbt was new when I first started it and it helped but not enough. I needed medications too. I think the newer dialectal behavioral therapy is better thsn CBT. In the U.S. it is in high demand and it is hard to get it...at least where I live. But I am older now and became very spiritual (not religious) and this changede me profoundly, more than all the therapy I have had. I rarely go anymore. The key for me was learning to trust the universe. Helped more than years of therapy. You never can predict what will help somebody. Or not. I feel frustrated for those still struggling with adult kids who are addicted and suspected with some mental illness too. There is so much to still learn and not enough concrete ways to diagnose and treat. Mental illness diagnosis and treatments change as fast as the type of phones we use. It is far from an exact science yet. I speak as a long term patient. I have seen psychiatry change so much and so fast in forty years...and yet there is still no test to prove a diagnoses. And there is less shame now, but there is still shame and stigma. Such a mess... [/QUOTE]
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