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Martie, can you help me understand this?
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<blockquote data-quote="mistmouse" data-source="post: 13470" data-attributes="member: 289"><p>Thanks Martie, That is the kind of information I was needing. I am most likely going to have a problem convincing them the discrepancy means something. As noted in the report, it just wants to lean toward saying my daughter is a visual/spatial learner and make a few recommendations. Like you said, I believe this can be contributing to my daughter's anxiety, whether it is from the differences she may feel in being able to do most things and not others, or whether it is due to the general attitude on the part of the SD that if difficult child isn't doing something she is just being lazy or is "willfully disobediant".</p><p></p><p>I have another question for you, if you check in on this thread again. Today I got the Occupational Therapist (OT) evaluation report, which of course was requested on my part yet again due to the continued problems with handwriting and the big issue they made out of it. She hadn't been tested since third grade, but just before third grade started I had gotten an outside Occupational Therapist (OT) evaluation and on the TVMS-R he reported a standard score of 80, percentile rank of 9, and a motor age of 5.1 (she was a little less than 4 months away from being 9); the SD rejected my report and said they would retest her, and they did about a month after my outside Occupational Therapist (OT) evaluation. The results of the Occupational Therapist (OT) evaluation done by the SD doesn't give me anything except Age Equivalancy, and they say that is 8 years 7 months (she was now just a little less than 3 months from turning 9). Now the SD has done another Occupational Therapist (OT) evaluation, but they did send her to somebody outside the SD. However, he seems to think the reason for the evaluation is to get meaningful modifications and accommodations, as he said "at this age there isn't much in the way of Occupational Therapist (OT) that is going to remediate anything, so we look at keyboarding or other accommodations." Fine, we want that too, but I did want the comparative value to see where my daughter is over 3 years later when the SD denied she had any deficits a month after I presented a report that said she did. This evaluator didn't give any age equivalancy or motor age, so I don't know how to determine where she is now to where she was three years ago. He reports a Standard Score of 88, and a Scaled Score of 8, but doesn't tell me how that translates to either the motor age reported on the outside evaluation I had done, or the SD evaluation done a month later which reports an AE of 8.7. Since the SD didn't give me a Standard Score or a Scaled Score then I have nothing to compare this to. What does stand out is he says, "difficult child demonstrates minimal to negligible overall improvement in the area of visual motor skills when compared to her past scores on this assessment tool." OK, is he talking about the one I had done in August of 2003 or the one the SD did in September of 2003, and the same test was done so there is the problem with repeating a test so soon and how that figures into how she scored on it. Either way, I do know it seems as if the evaluator is saying my daughther has made little progress, so at the least that would put her at an AE of 8.7 where she was when the SD tested her, and she is 12.1 years old. I believe that if she has not made much progress over three years, then three years ago the test I had done that showed a motor age of 5.1 was probably correct, and in the little over three years she has improved to the point of being AE 8.7 now, which would be three years growth over three years time, but still she is 12.1 and any improvement she made was on her own as they supplied no Occupational Therapist (OT) services. I am dismayed that this evaluator didn't take it to the logical step so that it could be used as a comparative tool rather than just to make suggestions for how to keep difficult child from doing so much handwriting. Anyway, I am rambling again. If you happen to check in again and see this, if you have any suggestions regarding the Occupational Therapist (OT) evaluation, it would be greatly appreciated.</p><p></p><p>mistmouse</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mistmouse, post: 13470, member: 289"] Thanks Martie, That is the kind of information I was needing. I am most likely going to have a problem convincing them the discrepancy means something. As noted in the report, it just wants to lean toward saying my daughter is a visual/spatial learner and make a few recommendations. Like you said, I believe this can be contributing to my daughter's anxiety, whether it is from the differences she may feel in being able to do most things and not others, or whether it is due to the general attitude on the part of the SD that if difficult child isn't doing something she is just being lazy or is "willfully disobediant". I have another question for you, if you check in on this thread again. Today I got the Occupational Therapist (OT) evaluation report, which of course was requested on my part yet again due to the continued problems with handwriting and the big issue they made out of it. She hadn't been tested since third grade, but just before third grade started I had gotten an outside Occupational Therapist (OT) evaluation and on the TVMS-R he reported a standard score of 80, percentile rank of 9, and a motor age of 5.1 (she was a little less than 4 months away from being 9); the SD rejected my report and said they would retest her, and they did about a month after my outside Occupational Therapist (OT) evaluation. The results of the Occupational Therapist (OT) evaluation done by the SD doesn't give me anything except Age Equivalancy, and they say that is 8 years 7 months (she was now just a little less than 3 months from turning 9). Now the SD has done another Occupational Therapist (OT) evaluation, but they did send her to somebody outside the SD. However, he seems to think the reason for the evaluation is to get meaningful modifications and accommodations, as he said "at this age there isn't much in the way of Occupational Therapist (OT) that is going to remediate anything, so we look at keyboarding or other accommodations." Fine, we want that too, but I did want the comparative value to see where my daughter is over 3 years later when the SD denied she had any deficits a month after I presented a report that said she did. This evaluator didn't give any age equivalancy or motor age, so I don't know how to determine where she is now to where she was three years ago. He reports a Standard Score of 88, and a Scaled Score of 8, but doesn't tell me how that translates to either the motor age reported on the outside evaluation I had done, or the SD evaluation done a month later which reports an AE of 8.7. Since the SD didn't give me a Standard Score or a Scaled Score then I have nothing to compare this to. What does stand out is he says, "difficult child demonstrates minimal to negligible overall improvement in the area of visual motor skills when compared to her past scores on this assessment tool." OK, is he talking about the one I had done in August of 2003 or the one the SD did in September of 2003, and the same test was done so there is the problem with repeating a test so soon and how that figures into how she scored on it. Either way, I do know it seems as if the evaluator is saying my daughther has made little progress, so at the least that would put her at an AE of 8.7 where she was when the SD tested her, and she is 12.1 years old. I believe that if she has not made much progress over three years, then three years ago the test I had done that showed a motor age of 5.1 was probably correct, and in the little over three years she has improved to the point of being AE 8.7 now, which would be three years growth over three years time, but still she is 12.1 and any improvement she made was on her own as they supplied no Occupational Therapist (OT) services. I am dismayed that this evaluator didn't take it to the logical step so that it could be used as a comparative tool rather than just to make suggestions for how to keep difficult child from doing so much handwriting. Anyway, I am rambling again. If you happen to check in again and see this, if you have any suggestions regarding the Occupational Therapist (OT) evaluation, it would be greatly appreciated. mistmouse [/QUOTE]
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