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<blockquote data-quote="BusynMember1" data-source="post: 762004" data-attributes="member: 23706"><p>I would stop begging for time and stop any response to any.nonsense response from her. I think they love the power they have over us. I think they know well that they are hurting us. That point by point rebuttal won't move her if she is deliberately sticking it to you. I wouldn't do it. But if you do, be ready to expect abuse or nothing at all. Get a therapist who understands estrangement.</p><p></p><p>There is a growing trend for kids to estrange family. It is a pandemic. If you like, there are tons of estranged parents forums on Facebook where you can talk about just this nonsense to others. Some haven't seen their kids or grands for years. Either the kids block them and won't even let them in when they visit (some call the cops,) or else the kids play games, like your daughter, who is making it ridiculously hard for you to be in their lives. This is a pattern, if it is estrangement, and is often connected to a divorce, a new spouse who doesn't like her time with you, or even adoption issues. It is nonsense that she rejects your husband but it is common. Divide and conquer. Me, I would not go if my husband could not anyway.</p><p></p><p>This estrangement is encouraged by therapists and the social media. Family is not as important as it used to be and people are encouraged to dump their parents if they want. "Take care of yourself and protect your kids from your toxic narcissist" parents. The new catch phrase.</p><p></p><p>Now most parents who are estranged are not in any way lacking. Most were, if anything, over indulgent and super loving. But our kids twist the truth.</p><p></p><p>What can we do about kids who don't include us or speak to us? Most advice from long term estranged parents on Facebook encourage moving on and living our lives, embracing those who do love us. We all have 0 control over our grown kids or our grand kids. Like 0%. They reject our reaching out to them.</p><p></p><p>Therapy helps. Good empathy on FB Estranged Parents sites gives commaraderie and pointers.</p><p></p><p>I hope you can find peace in this hard situations. Many people actually do. Hugs!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BusynMember1, post: 762004, member: 23706"] I would stop begging for time and stop any response to any.nonsense response from her. I think they love the power they have over us. I think they know well that they are hurting us. That point by point rebuttal won't move her if she is deliberately sticking it to you. I wouldn't do it. But if you do, be ready to expect abuse or nothing at all. Get a therapist who understands estrangement. There is a growing trend for kids to estrange family. It is a pandemic. If you like, there are tons of estranged parents forums on Facebook where you can talk about just this nonsense to others. Some haven't seen their kids or grands for years. Either the kids block them and won't even let them in when they visit (some call the cops,) or else the kids play games, like your daughter, who is making it ridiculously hard for you to be in their lives. This is a pattern, if it is estrangement, and is often connected to a divorce, a new spouse who doesn't like her time with you, or even adoption issues. It is nonsense that she rejects your husband but it is common. Divide and conquer. Me, I would not go if my husband could not anyway. This estrangement is encouraged by therapists and the social media. Family is not as important as it used to be and people are encouraged to dump their parents if they want. "Take care of yourself and protect your kids from your toxic narcissist" parents. The new catch phrase. Now most parents who are estranged are not in any way lacking. Most were, if anything, over indulgent and super loving. But our kids twist the truth. What can we do about kids who don't include us or speak to us? Most advice from long term estranged parents on Facebook encourage moving on and living our lives, embracing those who do love us. We all have 0 control over our grown kids or our grand kids. Like 0%. They reject our reaching out to them. Therapy helps. Good empathy on FB Estranged Parents sites gives commaraderie and pointers. I hope you can find peace in this hard situations. Many people actually do. Hugs! [/QUOTE]
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