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<blockquote data-quote="Copabanana" data-source="post: 742412" data-attributes="member: 18958"><p>I agree with you here, if you are referring to an adult sex offender. They are almost to a man, impervious to treatment, and confirmed predators. In my state for this reason there is a law that ensures that when they finish their state prison term they are automatically transferred to specialized state hospitals for indeterminate sentences, which means, for their entire lives, if they are not rehabilitated.</p><p></p><p>There is a difference here. This child has not been charged and convicted of a sex crime. And I do not think if push came to shove, he would have been. But I am not an attorney.</p><p></p><p>Second. I did not hear in sumsky's post to us that the psychologist or the therapists perceived that sexuality was the heart of or fueled his offensive behavior. It sounds like he is thought to be a child who is disconnected from himself and even to reality, not that he does not perceive it, but that he misperceives it. He seems also to be insufficiently aware of the impact of his behavior. While he violated boundaries to an extreme extent, it does not seem that his intention was to commit a sex act. What he was, was predatory towards sumsky's daughter probably fueled by envy or jealousy or resentment. Which is just as bad. But it is not a sex offense.</p><p></p><p>He would not be considered a sex abuser legally, to the extent that I am aware of the law, and he does not seem to be considered to have a impulse disorder by the mental health professionals.</p><p></p><p>His treating professionals appear to believe he can be treated and helped. I am not taking a position about whether this young man is redeemable or not. But he is not a sex offender or sex abuser by every psychological or legal category of which I am aware. In psychological terms, he has not met the criteria and he may never.</p><p></p><p>This does not mean that Sumsky should not take great care in her choices, as she is doing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Copabanana, post: 742412, member: 18958"] I agree with you here, if you are referring to an adult sex offender. They are almost to a man, impervious to treatment, and confirmed predators. In my state for this reason there is a law that ensures that when they finish their state prison term they are automatically transferred to specialized state hospitals for indeterminate sentences, which means, for their entire lives, if they are not rehabilitated. There is a difference here. This child has not been charged and convicted of a sex crime. And I do not think if push came to shove, he would have been. But I am not an attorney. Second. I did not hear in sumsky's post to us that the psychologist or the therapists perceived that sexuality was the heart of or fueled his offensive behavior. It sounds like he is thought to be a child who is disconnected from himself and even to reality, not that he does not perceive it, but that he misperceives it. He seems also to be insufficiently aware of the impact of his behavior. While he violated boundaries to an extreme extent, it does not seem that his intention was to commit a sex act. What he was, was predatory towards sumsky's daughter probably fueled by envy or jealousy or resentment. Which is just as bad. But it is not a sex offense. He would not be considered a sex abuser legally, to the extent that I am aware of the law, and he does not seem to be considered to have a impulse disorder by the mental health professionals. His treating professionals appear to believe he can be treated and helped. I am not taking a position about whether this young man is redeemable or not. But he is not a sex offender or sex abuser by every psychological or legal category of which I am aware. In psychological terms, he has not met the criteria and he may never. This does not mean that Sumsky should not take great care in her choices, as she is doing. [/QUOTE]
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