dstc_99
Well-Known Member
Since we got a little off track over the weekend I thought I would start fresh. LOL Glad to see you ladies are so pationate.
In this case we are ruled by KHSAA (Ky High School Athletic Association) and over the weekend I read up on their rules and our school rules. With the school rules they simply reference the KHSAA rules as far as eligibility there is no real guideline for punishments or discipline probably because each team is so different.
With the KHSAA rules the first thing I noticed is that as parents/participants we were given the permision forms but we were never given the full document. IE: the part that explains the rules was never given to us. Of course down in the bottom of the permission form it says that you agree to the rules.
The second thing I noticed is that that their guidance on eligibility is very vague. All it says is the following:
Sec. 3) Conduct - Student or Other Representative Under Penalty
Any student, contest offi cial or other offi cial school representative
who is under penalty or discipline or whose conduct is such as to
reflect discredit upon the school or the KHSAA is not eligible.
The final thing I noticed is a ruling on Guardianship/Change of Custody. I know that has nothing to do with my daughters situation but I believe it shows a pattern that the school has not been enforcing the guidelines for years. We have had multiple members of our team who did not live in our county but they have provided family members addresses in order to attend the schools. The Principal is well aware of these cases and has after a small amount of research declared that because these girls often stay at the addresses listed on their enrollment forms they are eligible to participate. On the other hand KHSAA states:
c) GUARDIANSHIP/CHANGE OF CUSTODY - The KHSAA shall not
recognize guardianship or similar arrangements made, for
purposes of this bylaw. The Commissioner shall have authority
to waive the provisions of this bylaw where it is shown that
custody of the student has been taken from one or both parents
and given to a third person by a court of competent jurisdiction
and under circumstances indicating: (1) the parent(s) is/are unfi t
or (2) the court fi nds that the health and welfare of the student
would be better served by the change in custody.
Basically unless these parents gave the other person custody of their child then their child is not eligible.
My main issue with the pregnant cheerleaders is less that she was prego and more that due to her pregnancy she was basically unable to perform cheers. She was restricted from doing three of the four things they compete with yet she was never benched. Also she was restricted from practice and all activities for 3 weeks prior to competition but showed up with a Dr's note the day we got on the bus allowing her to dance only and the coaches changed the routine again for her to be allowed to compete. Needless to say after multiple changes on her behalf the team came in last place. If she had been on the basketball team and been unable to dribble it would never have been considered that she be competing but because it is cheer and no one cares about cheer she was allowed to. Top that off with the fact she bullied the team the entire season and ran off atleast two other athletes (while the coaches watched and did nothing) it was a really difficult season. Our girls would show up to cheer and get jeered at and called $luts and *****$ by their own student section. When I approached the principal and athletic director and provided them proof of these issues they did nothing. Pregnancy is legal but bullying is not and the team should have been given as much protection as the pregnant cheerleader was.
As for multiple people wanting the slot on the team that isnt an issue we have the largest school in a several district area yet we have the smallest cheer team and the most number of people who quit the team. Of course having coaches who dont care doesnt help. Trust me there is no one waiting in the wings and the scholarship is so piddly $100 per year they participate that there is no competition for it. Also there are no competitive cheer teams or gyms within a 50 mile radius and that is with a commute through a large city. Even if they wanted to it is now competition season and the teams do not allow new participants at this point. That is partially the reason we suck every year is because we dont have students feeding in to us with skills.
As far as knowing the punishments for the other players during the year I am working on that. Thankfully they are dumb enough to post things on Twitter and Facebook like Sitting in court wish this dumb
judge would hurry up. Just gotta get the names together and see what they prinicipal actually does. Since they are juvenils I am having to work the teenagers to get the information but I am friends with a lawyer who works with the cases quite frequently. While she is restricted from telling me who she is not restricted from telling me that it has occured.
In this case we are ruled by KHSAA (Ky High School Athletic Association) and over the weekend I read up on their rules and our school rules. With the school rules they simply reference the KHSAA rules as far as eligibility there is no real guideline for punishments or discipline probably because each team is so different.
With the KHSAA rules the first thing I noticed is that as parents/participants we were given the permision forms but we were never given the full document. IE: the part that explains the rules was never given to us. Of course down in the bottom of the permission form it says that you agree to the rules.
The second thing I noticed is that that their guidance on eligibility is very vague. All it says is the following:
Sec. 3) Conduct - Student or Other Representative Under Penalty
Any student, contest offi cial or other offi cial school representative
who is under penalty or discipline or whose conduct is such as to
reflect discredit upon the school or the KHSAA is not eligible.
The final thing I noticed is a ruling on Guardianship/Change of Custody. I know that has nothing to do with my daughters situation but I believe it shows a pattern that the school has not been enforcing the guidelines for years. We have had multiple members of our team who did not live in our county but they have provided family members addresses in order to attend the schools. The Principal is well aware of these cases and has after a small amount of research declared that because these girls often stay at the addresses listed on their enrollment forms they are eligible to participate. On the other hand KHSAA states:
c) GUARDIANSHIP/CHANGE OF CUSTODY - The KHSAA shall not
recognize guardianship or similar arrangements made, for
purposes of this bylaw. The Commissioner shall have authority
to waive the provisions of this bylaw where it is shown that
custody of the student has been taken from one or both parents
and given to a third person by a court of competent jurisdiction
and under circumstances indicating: (1) the parent(s) is/are unfi t
or (2) the court fi nds that the health and welfare of the student
would be better served by the change in custody.
Basically unless these parents gave the other person custody of their child then their child is not eligible.
My main issue with the pregnant cheerleaders is less that she was prego and more that due to her pregnancy she was basically unable to perform cheers. She was restricted from doing three of the four things they compete with yet she was never benched. Also she was restricted from practice and all activities for 3 weeks prior to competition but showed up with a Dr's note the day we got on the bus allowing her to dance only and the coaches changed the routine again for her to be allowed to compete. Needless to say after multiple changes on her behalf the team came in last place. If she had been on the basketball team and been unable to dribble it would never have been considered that she be competing but because it is cheer and no one cares about cheer she was allowed to. Top that off with the fact she bullied the team the entire season and ran off atleast two other athletes (while the coaches watched and did nothing) it was a really difficult season. Our girls would show up to cheer and get jeered at and called $luts and *****$ by their own student section. When I approached the principal and athletic director and provided them proof of these issues they did nothing. Pregnancy is legal but bullying is not and the team should have been given as much protection as the pregnant cheerleader was.
As for multiple people wanting the slot on the team that isnt an issue we have the largest school in a several district area yet we have the smallest cheer team and the most number of people who quit the team. Of course having coaches who dont care doesnt help. Trust me there is no one waiting in the wings and the scholarship is so piddly $100 per year they participate that there is no competition for it. Also there are no competitive cheer teams or gyms within a 50 mile radius and that is with a commute through a large city. Even if they wanted to it is now competition season and the teams do not allow new participants at this point. That is partially the reason we suck every year is because we dont have students feeding in to us with skills.
As far as knowing the punishments for the other players during the year I am working on that. Thankfully they are dumb enough to post things on Twitter and Facebook like Sitting in court wish this dumb
judge would hurry up. Just gotta get the names together and see what they prinicipal actually does. Since they are juvenils I am having to work the teenagers to get the information but I am friends with a lawyer who works with the cases quite frequently. While she is restricted from telling me who she is not restricted from telling me that it has occured.
