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Older Difficult Child probably not going in to Marines after all...
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<blockquote data-quote="ksm" data-source="post: 720516" data-attributes="member: 12511"><p>Odds are, she would most likely be dismissed from military service with less than "honorable"</p><p></p><p>I sent her this info I found at the same site. She is going to talk to the recruiter, yes the same guy, and tell her she wants to change her info. She is willing to say her friend that got turned down told her to lie, because if she tells higher ups what he had her to, he found lose his job.</p><p></p><p>Copied and pasted:</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong>What if You've Already Lied. Is it too Late?</strong></span></p><p>So, what if you're already in the <a href="https://www.thebalance.com/the-delayed-enlistment-program-dep-3332701" target="_blank">Delayed Entry Program</a> (DEP)? Is it too late to tell the truth? No! As a rule, the military <em>never</em> prosecutes members in the DEP (I don't know of a single case where anyone in the DEP was ever criminally prosecuted by the military).</p><p></p><p>At best, correcting false information on your <a href="https://www.thebalance.com/can-a-juvenile-felon-enlist-3354071" target="_blank">enlistment paperwork</a> while in the DEP will result in an angry recruiter and delay in when you can ship out to basic while a waiver is considered. At worse, you will be released from the DEP. Being released from the DEP is not the same as a fraudulent entry discharge.</p><p></p><p>In fact, it's not really a discharge at all, because you receive no discharge characterization (i.e., "honorable," "General," or "Under Other Than Honorable"), and you don't receive a daughter Form 214 (Record of Discharge). If you are released from the DEP, you can honestly answer "no" to any employment application that asks if you've ever serviced in the military. Additionally, a discharge from the DEP has absolutely no effect on you if you wish to try and join a different military service (a discharge from the DEP may prevent you from joining the same service from who's DEP you were released from, however). Once you take that final oath and go on <a href="https://www.thebalance.com/active-duty-3332036" target="_blank">active duty</a>, however, it's a completely different story.</p><p></p><p>If you're in the DEP, and you've lied or withheld required information on your enlistment paperwork, it's YOUR responsibility to have it corrected. It's YOUR signature on the forms certifying that the information you've provided is correct and complete. You start with your recruiter. You <em><strong>INSIST</strong></em> that your paperwork be corrected, and you <em><strong>INSIST</strong></em> that you be shown proof of the correction. Tell your recruiter that you will absolutely tell the truth at MEPS on your final shipping day (before you take the active duty oath), even if it means disqualification.</p><p></p><p>If your recruiter tries to talk you out of it, don't listen! It's your life, and it's <em>YOU</em>who will suffer the consequences if your false statements are later discovered. If your recruiter absolutely refuses to help you correct the paperwork, inform them politely, but firmly, that if you do not receive assistance, you plan to report them for a violation of Article 84 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. You can report them using one of the addresses above, or report them directly to Service Laison at MEPS.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ksm, post: 720516, member: 12511"] Odds are, she would most likely be dismissed from military service with less than "honorable" I sent her this info I found at the same site. She is going to talk to the recruiter, yes the same guy, and tell her she wants to change her info. She is willing to say her friend that got turned down told her to lie, because if she tells higher ups what he had her to, he found lose his job. Copied and pasted: [SIZE=4][B]What if You've Already Lied. Is it too Late?[/B][/SIZE] So, what if you're already in the [URL='https://www.thebalance.com/the-delayed-enlistment-program-dep-3332701']Delayed Entry Program[/URL] (DEP)? Is it too late to tell the truth? No! As a rule, the military [I]never[/I] prosecutes members in the DEP (I don't know of a single case where anyone in the DEP was ever criminally prosecuted by the military). At best, correcting false information on your [URL='https://www.thebalance.com/can-a-juvenile-felon-enlist-3354071']enlistment paperwork[/URL] while in the DEP will result in an angry recruiter and delay in when you can ship out to basic while a waiver is considered. At worse, you will be released from the DEP. Being released from the DEP is not the same as a fraudulent entry discharge. In fact, it's not really a discharge at all, because you receive no discharge characterization (i.e., "honorable," "General," or "Under Other Than Honorable"), and you don't receive a daughter Form 214 (Record of Discharge). If you are released from the DEP, you can honestly answer "no" to any employment application that asks if you've ever serviced in the military. Additionally, a discharge from the DEP has absolutely no effect on you if you wish to try and join a different military service (a discharge from the DEP may prevent you from joining the same service from who's DEP you were released from, however). Once you take that final oath and go on [URL='https://www.thebalance.com/active-duty-3332036']active duty[/URL], however, it's a completely different story. If you're in the DEP, and you've lied or withheld required information on your enlistment paperwork, it's YOUR responsibility to have it corrected. It's YOUR signature on the forms certifying that the information you've provided is correct and complete. You start with your recruiter. You [I][B]INSIST[/B][/I] that your paperwork be corrected, and you [I][B]INSIST[/B][/I] that you be shown proof of the correction. Tell your recruiter that you will absolutely tell the truth at MEPS on your final shipping day (before you take the active duty oath), even if it means disqualification. If your recruiter tries to talk you out of it, don't listen! It's your life, and it's [I]YOU[/I]who will suffer the consequences if your false statements are later discovered. If your recruiter absolutely refuses to help you correct the paperwork, inform them politely, but firmly, that if you do not receive assistance, you plan to report them for a violation of Article 84 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. You can report them using one of the addresses above, or report them directly to Service Laison at MEPS. [/QUOTE]
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