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<blockquote data-quote="dreamer" data-source="post: 6308" data-attributes="member: 1697"><p>a kind of update-</p><p>we had parent teacher conferences at my sons school today- not sure why I went exactly, except well they have no school from today till next Tuesday and I am still kind of --2nd guessing myself? </p><p>And I wanted to clean out his locker and see if his glasses turned up anywhere yet and I was curious where they are ranking his reading level NOW. (he is 6th grade mainstream, reading at 3rd grade level) </p><p>So, anyway I went. </p><p>The teacher who pulled him into detention yesterday was mad and called son a lair to his face today at conference and said I TOLD YOU to CALL your mother yesterday. Look in my garbage here is my note that you had detention yesterday. To which my son meekly said, no you told the other kid noone could call home now. </p><p>This teacher man also said your son had detention for not turning in his homework for several times. Um.no that cannot be right, ALL his zap spots were stamped by teachers- every single one. </p><p>SO then the man teacher said if you want to discuss it in more detail, I have no conferences tomorrow from 1-4 becuz OTHER parents WORK then. You really should have come in THEN. (Um, I offered them to put our conferences ANYWHERE THEY chose)</p><p>Son has a B+ in that class. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>OK off to reading/language arts/hmoeroom/case manager teacher. He has As for both her classes and she has only 5 kids no matter it is still onsidered mainstream. She claims she had NO idea he has no vision in one eye, nevermind I have talked to her WEEKLY and reminded her etc. She also claims she did not KNOW why he is absent so much,nevermind I call her for every appointment to try to get his work ahead of time so we can do it while gone so he does not come back to mountains of makeup work. Turns out she also has been absent a LOT and.her classroom phone and her extension at school have not worked properly all school year (she says)and she had NO clue he had detention....and she forgot his glasses were missing. ANd then she looked at my son and said you never told me you have an IEP------I was like, no but I tell you weekly. YOU are his case manager. Hwow could you NOT know? If he did not have an IEP why would he have a case manager? Then she started to yell at my son telling him he should then be in HER study hall, cuz it is study hall for kids with IEPs. SO we took out his schedule printed from office and looked at that and nope, he is assigned a different stdy hall. He then told her he did try one day to come see her during his study hall but the study hall teacher would not give him a pass and then the office would not either, even tho this teacher had told him to come to her that day during his study hall. HOW IS MY SON to know his office issued schedule is wrong? The teacher just shrugged when I asked her. </p><p>Then she asks ME why he was promoted to middle school if he missed 3 months last year and why is he in middle school if he might miss more school for more surgeries this year and what is SHE supposed to do with his inability to read and write. &lt;sigh&gt; I wish I knew.</p><p>And I asked her about detention and she said she had no clue why he would have detention, as far as she knew, he was all fine, no reasons she knew about for any detentions. </p><p></p><p>On to science. Science teacher started up before we were in the room. Turns out she was in the office last nite when I went in there looking for my son. She was telling him today has he learned his lesson to DO his homework yet? But he has an A in her class. But if he would buckle down he would not scare me by having tobe in detention and if he would admit to me he HAS detention noone would get upset. HUH? </p><p>I said no wait.thats not whats going on. She said well if you would READ his zap sheets daily, you would KNOW he has detentions. well lady if YOU would read his zap sheets you would see that I sign every single space every single day right next to every teachers stamp on them, and there is not a single blank space on any of his zzap sheets at all. </p><p>THEN</p><p>she pulls out a very familiar colored sheet of paper---- and says ya know, this is yours and one day you got paged to the office so I took it off your lab table and put it in my folder and forgot I had it. um.......it was THE OFFENDING MISSING ZAP SHEET- the one that caused the detention. YIKES! I said YIKES THATS what caused all this trouble, and YOU had it all this time?????????/ You took it off his desk? Do you also have his glasses that were with it that have been missing ever since? (my son kept telling me they were in science class)</p><p>Well, she got nasty and said well you know this is HIS responsibility, after all he is 11 years old now and he is supposed to keep trac of his belongings. I said well, you know I came to school unexpected and by surprise and office paged him to come by me, but then they did not let him go back to class and we left to doctor in chicago directly.....but son did not KNOW that morning thta we WERE leaving......he had no clue. BUT you TOOOK IT........and YOU had it ALL THIS TIME? She said well I forgot. Um OK so he gets detention cuz he did not know he was not coming back to class, but you forgot and thats OK? she said well he is 11 he needs to be acccountable. I said well how old are YOU- are you being accountable for TAKING IT and forgetting about it? Well, she did not like that at all. She looked at me like I was nuts and she started backing up away from me and towards her door and she said to me, all so calm.......I can see you are a little upset and I think we should reschedule your conference for a time when you are feeling a little less upset? Uh, no, I do not think we need to reschedule a conference at all. I think YOU need to apologize for TAKING my sons zap sheet and apologize for accusing him of not doing homework to get detention when the reason he got detention was becuz YOU took his zap sheet and forgot that YOU had it! </p><p>AND I think you should all also consider that even at the high school the SCHOOL notifies parents when they are keeping a kid for detention. Well, really he is 11 and you should not worry if he is not right where you think he should be. Um well, you know, there are monsters out there and my son KNEW I was waiting outside for him and last time I knew, keeping a person against there will and not even notifying their parents MIGHT be considered unlawful detention or kidnapping. You know there ARE pedophiles who LIKE kids? and this school IS just across the 2 lane street from our county jail? I am NOT going to apologize for worrying when I cannot find my son for an hour. After all he is still a CHILD. and I happen to love him. I am glad he is getting an A in your class, and here is the work that was due today. Goodbye.</p><p>WHew.</p><p>and then to his math teacher who said Oh dude! Told me son has a perfect 100% on EVERYTHING in math class and my son volunteers to do board work, help peers, clean classroom, etc and my son is a true pleasure???????? By then I was choked up and fighting tears and it was good to hear something good. </p><p></p><p>Saw speech teacher in hallway, she was gretting parents at door and she grabbed us to tell me she wanted to talk to me about my sons truancy and lack of doing work. I told her no, I do not want to talk to you....my son was legitimately absent and YOU should NOT have required all his makeup work all the day he came back to class and you did NOT ever return a single call, I do NOT want to talk to YOU. (actually she got fired a few years ago over an incident with my easy child and got rehired 2 years later she called my easy child a swear word related to sex and the principal caught her, not me)</p><p></p><p>Then saw homeroom teacher case manager again, who by then had ??/maybe done some thinking? she stopped us and gushed at son how sorry she was that he had to do detention for another teachers wrongdoings and would he forgive them?????? HUH? yeah OK almost every single teacher caled him a liar to his face and accused me of not knowing anything......when they really had no clue......what is this meek 11 yr old boy going to say? He shrugged. </p><p></p><p>we got out to car and my quiet obediant boy says mom? you know, did you notice? the teachers lie and make things up and twist everything even when they did not know what they were even talking about and did you see how they blame everyone but themself when THEY do something wrong? Why do they do that? is it becuz noone will believe a kid anyway? And they tell US to treat each other with respect but they swear at us in our face and call us names. Mom? why did they all act like that? And mom? I think you SCARED my science teacher. I said well dude? Your whole school had me scared mindless yesterday. Your science teacher SHOULD have been scared. She caused a LOT of trouble. And since she does not KNOW me, she really does not know if I am "safe"or not. When you go treating people THAT bad and calling them names, you need to realize some people might be a little bit..unable to control themself, and she must have realized she went too far and then gotten scared. </p><p>We cleaned ALLmy sons lockers etc out on our way out of the building. </p><p></p><p>No, I do NOT think he is "safe" there at all, and on Tuesday I will formally withdraw him to homeschool. </p><p></p><p>BUT it broke my heart. Out of school in 6th grade and he is NOT even a behavior problem? Heck his report card says on it "You made Honor roll" </p><p>No school sports. No homecoming, no prom.....He did his work, he was respectful. It is SO not fair!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dreamer, post: 6308, member: 1697"] a kind of update- we had parent teacher conferences at my sons school today- not sure why I went exactly, except well they have no school from today till next Tuesday and I am still kind of --2nd guessing myself? And I wanted to clean out his locker and see if his glasses turned up anywhere yet and I was curious where they are ranking his reading level NOW. (he is 6th grade mainstream, reading at 3rd grade level) So, anyway I went. The teacher who pulled him into detention yesterday was mad and called son a lair to his face today at conference and said I TOLD YOU to CALL your mother yesterday. Look in my garbage here is my note that you had detention yesterday. To which my son meekly said, no you told the other kid noone could call home now. This teacher man also said your son had detention for not turning in his homework for several times. Um.no that cannot be right, ALL his zap spots were stamped by teachers- every single one. SO then the man teacher said if you want to discuss it in more detail, I have no conferences tomorrow from 1-4 becuz OTHER parents WORK then. You really should have come in THEN. (Um, I offered them to put our conferences ANYWHERE THEY chose) Son has a B+ in that class. :-) OK off to reading/language arts/hmoeroom/case manager teacher. He has As for both her classes and she has only 5 kids no matter it is still onsidered mainstream. She claims she had NO idea he has no vision in one eye, nevermind I have talked to her WEEKLY and reminded her etc. She also claims she did not KNOW why he is absent so much,nevermind I call her for every appointment to try to get his work ahead of time so we can do it while gone so he does not come back to mountains of makeup work. Turns out she also has been absent a LOT and.her classroom phone and her extension at school have not worked properly all school year (she says)and she had NO clue he had detention....and she forgot his glasses were missing. ANd then she looked at my son and said you never told me you have an IEP------I was like, no but I tell you weekly. YOU are his case manager. Hwow could you NOT know? If he did not have an IEP why would he have a case manager? Then she started to yell at my son telling him he should then be in HER study hall, cuz it is study hall for kids with IEPs. SO we took out his schedule printed from office and looked at that and nope, he is assigned a different stdy hall. He then told her he did try one day to come see her during his study hall but the study hall teacher would not give him a pass and then the office would not either, even tho this teacher had told him to come to her that day during his study hall. HOW IS MY SON to know his office issued schedule is wrong? The teacher just shrugged when I asked her. Then she asks ME why he was promoted to middle school if he missed 3 months last year and why is he in middle school if he might miss more school for more surgeries this year and what is SHE supposed to do with his inability to read and write. <sigh> I wish I knew. And I asked her about detention and she said she had no clue why he would have detention, as far as she knew, he was all fine, no reasons she knew about for any detentions. On to science. Science teacher started up before we were in the room. Turns out she was in the office last nite when I went in there looking for my son. She was telling him today has he learned his lesson to DO his homework yet? But he has an A in her class. But if he would buckle down he would not scare me by having tobe in detention and if he would admit to me he HAS detention noone would get upset. HUH? I said no wait.thats not whats going on. She said well if you would READ his zap sheets daily, you would KNOW he has detentions. well lady if YOU would read his zap sheets you would see that I sign every single space every single day right next to every teachers stamp on them, and there is not a single blank space on any of his zzap sheets at all. THEN she pulls out a very familiar colored sheet of paper---- and says ya know, this is yours and one day you got paged to the office so I took it off your lab table and put it in my folder and forgot I had it. um.......it was THE OFFENDING MISSING ZAP SHEET- the one that caused the detention. YIKES! I said YIKES THATS what caused all this trouble, and YOU had it all this time?????????/ You took it off his desk? Do you also have his glasses that were with it that have been missing ever since? (my son kept telling me they were in science class) Well, she got nasty and said well you know this is HIS responsibility, after all he is 11 years old now and he is supposed to keep trac of his belongings. I said well, you know I came to school unexpected and by surprise and office paged him to come by me, but then they did not let him go back to class and we left to doctor in chicago directly.....but son did not KNOW that morning thta we WERE leaving......he had no clue. BUT you TOOOK IT........and YOU had it ALL THIS TIME? She said well I forgot. Um OK so he gets detention cuz he did not know he was not coming back to class, but you forgot and thats OK? she said well he is 11 he needs to be acccountable. I said well how old are YOU- are you being accountable for TAKING IT and forgetting about it? Well, she did not like that at all. She looked at me like I was nuts and she started backing up away from me and towards her door and she said to me, all so calm.......I can see you are a little upset and I think we should reschedule your conference for a time when you are feeling a little less upset? Uh, no, I do not think we need to reschedule a conference at all. I think YOU need to apologize for TAKING my sons zap sheet and apologize for accusing him of not doing homework to get detention when the reason he got detention was becuz YOU took his zap sheet and forgot that YOU had it! AND I think you should all also consider that even at the high school the SCHOOL notifies parents when they are keeping a kid for detention. Well, really he is 11 and you should not worry if he is not right where you think he should be. Um well, you know, there are monsters out there and my son KNEW I was waiting outside for him and last time I knew, keeping a person against there will and not even notifying their parents MIGHT be considered unlawful detention or kidnapping. You know there ARE pedophiles who LIKE kids? and this school IS just across the 2 lane street from our county jail? I am NOT going to apologize for worrying when I cannot find my son for an hour. After all he is still a CHILD. and I happen to love him. I am glad he is getting an A in your class, and here is the work that was due today. Goodbye. WHew. and then to his math teacher who said Oh dude! Told me son has a perfect 100% on EVERYTHING in math class and my son volunteers to do board work, help peers, clean classroom, etc and my son is a true pleasure???????? By then I was choked up and fighting tears and it was good to hear something good. Saw speech teacher in hallway, she was gretting parents at door and she grabbed us to tell me she wanted to talk to me about my sons truancy and lack of doing work. I told her no, I do not want to talk to you....my son was legitimately absent and YOU should NOT have required all his makeup work all the day he came back to class and you did NOT ever return a single call, I do NOT want to talk to YOU. (actually she got fired a few years ago over an incident with my easy child and got rehired 2 years later she called my easy child a swear word related to sex and the principal caught her, not me) Then saw homeroom teacher case manager again, who by then had ??/maybe done some thinking? she stopped us and gushed at son how sorry she was that he had to do detention for another teachers wrongdoings and would he forgive them?????? HUH? yeah OK almost every single teacher caled him a liar to his face and accused me of not knowing anything......when they really had no clue......what is this meek 11 yr old boy going to say? He shrugged. we got out to car and my quiet obediant boy says mom? you know, did you notice? the teachers lie and make things up and twist everything even when they did not know what they were even talking about and did you see how they blame everyone but themself when THEY do something wrong? Why do they do that? is it becuz noone will believe a kid anyway? And they tell US to treat each other with respect but they swear at us in our face and call us names. Mom? why did they all act like that? And mom? I think you SCARED my science teacher. I said well dude? Your whole school had me scared mindless yesterday. Your science teacher SHOULD have been scared. She caused a LOT of trouble. And since she does not KNOW me, she really does not know if I am "safe"or not. When you go treating people THAT bad and calling them names, you need to realize some people might be a little bit..unable to control themself, and she must have realized she went too far and then gotten scared. We cleaned ALLmy sons lockers etc out on our way out of the building. No, I do NOT think he is "safe" there at all, and on Tuesday I will formally withdraw him to homeschool. BUT it broke my heart. Out of school in 6th grade and he is NOT even a behavior problem? Heck his report card says on it "You made Honor roll" No school sports. No homecoming, no prom.....He did his work, he was respectful. It is SO not fair! [/QUOTE]
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