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<blockquote data-quote="Smithmom" data-source="post: 744100" data-attributes="member: 23371"><p>Beta, I'm happy for you that you're working on detaching and on happiness for yourself and the rest of the family. For whatever its worth..</p><p></p><p>I've had many of these kinds of conversations with my kid, especially when he was using. But sometimes even when he wasn't. Its the tone more than the words that gets to me. I am able to ignore the words because they're not logical or rational like blaming you for his life because you moved! Huh? I know that the tone with my kid is coming from anger either fueled by mania or drugs. So I know that its not my kid saying those hateful things. Its mania or drugs. Either way, I know I can't talk to mania or drugs logically or emotionally. There's no successful conversation with either unless you're saying is that enough money or did you want more? What I'm saying is that the conversation was doomed before it began. Next time adjust your expectation. You can't get what you want. Expect failure. Success is he answered the phone and is alive and functioning at some level.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Smithmom, post: 744100, member: 23371"] Beta, I'm happy for you that you're working on detaching and on happiness for yourself and the rest of the family. For whatever its worth.. I've had many of these kinds of conversations with my kid, especially when he was using. But sometimes even when he wasn't. Its the tone more than the words that gets to me. I am able to ignore the words because they're not logical or rational like blaming you for his life because you moved! Huh? I know that the tone with my kid is coming from anger either fueled by mania or drugs. So I know that its not my kid saying those hateful things. Its mania or drugs. Either way, I know I can't talk to mania or drugs logically or emotionally. There's no successful conversation with either unless you're saying is that enough money or did you want more? What I'm saying is that the conversation was doomed before it began. Next time adjust your expectation. You can't get what you want. Expect failure. Success is he answered the phone and is alive and functioning at some level. [/QUOTE]
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