Quickly wanted to share something I found today!

[lovelyboy]

I came apon an seemingly amazing book!
I have just bought it.....havent even had time to read one page!
The books name is : Bridging the gap....by Rondalyn V Whitney......
This is what its about: Raising a child with nonverbal learning disorder (NLD).....
"........a neurological deficit that prevents children from understanding nonverbal cues like tone of voice and facial expression......."

I haven't even ever heard of NLD!?
Does any of you have experience with this? Sounds interesting to me.....

 

[buddy]

There are several parents here who have kids who they have said have the NonVerbal Learning Disorder (NVLD) diagnosis and I know we have had people here who said that is what the evaluations that were happening at that time were leading to.... if you search it on this site you will probably see some. Many kids with nlvd can look similar to high functioning autism and asperger's disorder. Their testing patterns (patterns on their IQ tests) look somewhat different. The full profile for Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) is not usually there, not as much of the sensory integration challenges, but of course that varies. But many of the interventions cross over.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonverbal_learning_disorder
A nonverbal learning disorder or nonverbal learning disability (NLD or NonVerbal Learning Disorder (NVLD)) is a condition characterized by a significant discrepancy between higher verbal and lower motor, visuo-spatial, and social skills on an IQ test.[SUP][1][/SUP] Some proponents of the category believe that this discrepancy is attributable to dysfunction in the right cerebral hemisphere.[SUP][1][/SUP][SUP][2][/SUP]
NLD involves deficits in perception, coordination, socialisation, non-verbal problem-solving and understanding of humour, along with well-developedrote memory.[SUP][3][/SUP] As most people with Asperger syndrome (AS) fit the criteria for NLD, a diagnosis of AS is often preferred.[SUP][3][/SUP] In this instance, some researchers assert that an AS diagnosis is more clinically useful than an NLD diagnosis, and argue that NLD would be an example of excessive diagnostic splitting. However, NLD can also occur with other disorders. As with Asperger syndrome, NLD exists on a spectrum, and those affected can experience it in a range of ways. Those with an NLD diagnosis can experience some or all of the symptoms, and to varying degrees. Ongoing debate surrounds the relationship between Asperger syndrome and NLD, as research on the condition is ongoing and procedures can differ from AS research.[SUP][3][/SUP]

http://www.medication.umich.edu/yourchild/topics/nld.htm#signs

Let us know if you like the book, I have seen that on amazon before.

 

[lovelyboy]

Buddy.....is this a case of most Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) will have NonVerbal Learning Disorder (NVLD) but few NonVerbal Learning Disorder (NVLD) will have Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD)?

 

[buddy]

I dont think so, in super broad terms (of course we know that these rules are never hard and fast and there are going to be kids with AS who are not this way and same for NLD) I think people think of AS kids as having visual strengths and a harder time with auditory/verbal communication. Whereas NonVerbal Learning Disorder (NVLD) kids are thought to have struggles with visual processing and other visual skills... SO their IQ subtests for example may show really good scores for the kinds of tasks that are presented to them verbally and really significantly lower scores for the kinds of tasks that require more visual skill

here is one of many compare/contrast articles but every time I have read any of this, the bottom line is there are always exceptions and we simply have to really pay attention to our own kids learning style, how they process information the best etc. Is NonVerbal Learning Disorder (NVLD) even in the DSM V proposal? I don't think it is even an official diagnosis in that sense (not saying it is not real, it clearly is an issue) but in terms of getting service I guess it is good to know about it but stick to the Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) diagnosis if you can get that so services can be obtained. For you, you have to privately pay for most things anyway, right? so may be a different situation in that respect.

http://www.nldontheweb.org/nldadvancedreading/aspergersdisordernld.html

here is a discussion on this board where a guest put a comparison but I dont know where the list originated or if it is valid, just seemed interesting:
http://www.conductdisorders.com/com...rgers-adhd-High-Functioning Autism (HFA).155/

I wish brains would read the books and divide themselves up in a way that we could take a picture and make an easy diagnosis! LOL

oh and to answer the question, I think it is more that many NonVerbal Learning Disorder (NVLD) kids could meet Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) criteria. Again, we all know that is not true for many others.

 

[lovelyboy]

Thanx Buddy....it does make sense....Think I must read the book first!
I just realized again how much we as a forum know!
I truely think we are very up to date, informed parents!!!!!!
Thanx!

 

[InsaneCdn]

Thanx Buddy....it does make sense....Think I must read the book first!
I just realized again how much we as a forum know!
I truely think we are very up to date, informed parents!!!!!!
Thanx!

Lovely...
Its about the power of numbers. Any ONE of us... we don't know so much.
Together? It is amazing.

 

[BusynMember]

I have an NonVerbal Learning Disorder (NVLD): Verbal IQ is 120, Performance 80.

While it has greatly affected my ability to perform (and people expect me to perform GREAT because I am very verbally astute), nobody thinks I have Aspergers, including me. So it's not a given.