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<blockquote data-quote="slsh" data-source="post: 691071" data-attributes="member: 8"><p>Rebelson - Really interesting that your son and his friend referred to it as the "hole or pit." My challenging kid and I have called it the hole for years. We each have triggers (PTSD kind of stuff), but we also have that darned depression that comes for no reason whatsoever. And it can be one deep dark hole.</p><p></p><p>Your son's comments are actually encouraging to me. I'm a big believer in cognitive behavioral therapy for my own depression - basically self-care, recognizing the signs of falling down the hole and being proactive in trying to stop the descent. I've found that it takes work (a LOT of work sometimes) and also practice to make CBT work for you, but I think being aware of the beginnings of the descent into the dark hole is a huge step. I do understand the concept of being comfortable in the hole... not sure I'd use "comfortable", but sometimes it's impossible to not hit bottom - you just get pulled all the way down. I've never been an addict (though possibly loved my scotch a bit too much in my younger years), but I'd guess the challenge would be to find other ways to alleviate the pain of being down there. </p><p></p><p>Personally, I don't find that music negatively affects my mood - sometimes though it is a reflection of my mood. It also can be something to sooth me, or take me back in time or to a different place - I have a very sensory reaction to music, can remember when and where I first heard a song, can smell my new steam curling iron (circa 1975) or apricot facial mask with certain songs (like "Radar Love" by Golden Earring, for example) or taste the ice cream I used to get when I was 12 and Elton John's Brown Dirt Cowboy was playing. Slayer and Korn and Eminem, etc., have been played by this old woman, LOL, as well as some of the heavier metal bands (I still can't get into my challenging kid's death metal stuff - incoherent screaming just doesn't do it for me). But I also love Dan Fogelberg and James Taylor and Dave Matthews. My kid has an even wider repertoire - from death metal (roarrrrrrr roarrrrr roarrrr) to classical. His musical selection in the shower gives me a hint as to his state of mind on any given day.</p><p></p><p>I've been reading a blogger (Jenny Lawson, aka The Bloggess) who deals with depression and anxiety and some other stuff. I love her phrase: Depression lies. All that negative self-talk I do when I'm in the hole, it's all lies. Learning to filter out the lies... it's really hard to do, but when I'm falling I do remind myself that that dang depression lies like a rug.</p><p></p><p>Glad your son was able to share with you so eloquently.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="slsh, post: 691071, member: 8"] Rebelson - Really interesting that your son and his friend referred to it as the "hole or pit." My challenging kid and I have called it the hole for years. We each have triggers (PTSD kind of stuff), but we also have that darned depression that comes for no reason whatsoever. And it can be one deep dark hole. Your son's comments are actually encouraging to me. I'm a big believer in cognitive behavioral therapy for my own depression - basically self-care, recognizing the signs of falling down the hole and being proactive in trying to stop the descent. I've found that it takes work (a LOT of work sometimes) and also practice to make CBT work for you, but I think being aware of the beginnings of the descent into the dark hole is a huge step. I do understand the concept of being comfortable in the hole... not sure I'd use "comfortable", but sometimes it's impossible to not hit bottom - you just get pulled all the way down. I've never been an addict (though possibly loved my scotch a bit too much in my younger years), but I'd guess the challenge would be to find other ways to alleviate the pain of being down there. Personally, I don't find that music negatively affects my mood - sometimes though it is a reflection of my mood. It also can be something to sooth me, or take me back in time or to a different place - I have a very sensory reaction to music, can remember when and where I first heard a song, can smell my new steam curling iron (circa 1975) or apricot facial mask with certain songs (like "Radar Love" by Golden Earring, for example) or taste the ice cream I used to get when I was 12 and Elton John's Brown Dirt Cowboy was playing. Slayer and Korn and Eminem, etc., have been played by this old woman, LOL, as well as some of the heavier metal bands (I still can't get into my challenging kid's death metal stuff - incoherent screaming just doesn't do it for me). But I also love Dan Fogelberg and James Taylor and Dave Matthews. My kid has an even wider repertoire - from death metal (roarrrrrrr roarrrrr roarrrr) to classical. His musical selection in the shower gives me a hint as to his state of mind on any given day. I've been reading a blogger (Jenny Lawson, aka The Bloggess) who deals with depression and anxiety and some other stuff. I love her phrase: Depression lies. All that negative self-talk I do when I'm in the hole, it's all lies. Learning to filter out the lies... it's really hard to do, but when I'm falling I do remind myself that that dang depression lies like a rug. Glad your son was able to share with you so eloquently. [/QUOTE]
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