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<blockquote data-quote="BusynMember" data-source="post: 625402" data-attributes="member: 1550"><p>Seriously, it isn't your problem. Do they live with you? I hope not. I wouldn't even want to listen to the complaints. And I never blame the girlfriend or the male spouse completely. No way. Our kids chose them and your son is enabling her ways and he doesn't have it together either and they are now going to have TWO kids and they are still kids emotionally. If you can, just detach. One thing I never did, and trust me I did many things to make myself stressed, was to angst over what the person my kids picked did. If they were lazy, oh well. If they didn't work, oh well. If my kids (36 did this) give in to everything loser wife (now ex) wants, oh well. Why in the world are you annoyed with just her when your son is the one who is going along with her? Hey, they are choosing to be together and it's none of our business. Why even waste the time it takes to get mildly annoyed?</p><p></p><p>The only sad thing here is that the poor grand kids have no chance at stability or mature parenting. But unless you want to legally take that on and can actually win that responsibility in court (which is unlikely), you can't do anything much there either. Unfortunately, it is very hard to terminate parental rights just because parents are immature, dirty, incompetent or can't manage money. It has to be something that CPS can put a bigger finger on, such as sexual abuse (PROVEN sexual abuse) or bruises all over the body that some professional, like a doctor, sees and reports. Grandparents have few rights in the US. When my son and his ex were divorcing, I read up on many of the laws and one consistent law throughout the country is that grandparents have no rights. Isn't that great? We can't even see the grandkids if the parents decide not to let us. </p><p></p><p>I am sorry you are upset. I have often been upset myself. Just not over what the people my kids pick do.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BusynMember, post: 625402, member: 1550"] Seriously, it isn't your problem. Do they live with you? I hope not. I wouldn't even want to listen to the complaints. And I never blame the girlfriend or the male spouse completely. No way. Our kids chose them and your son is enabling her ways and he doesn't have it together either and they are now going to have TWO kids and they are still kids emotionally. If you can, just detach. One thing I never did, and trust me I did many things to make myself stressed, was to angst over what the person my kids picked did. If they were lazy, oh well. If they didn't work, oh well. If my kids (36 did this) give in to everything loser wife (now ex) wants, oh well. Why in the world are you annoyed with just her when your son is the one who is going along with her? Hey, they are choosing to be together and it's none of our business. Why even waste the time it takes to get mildly annoyed? The only sad thing here is that the poor grand kids have no chance at stability or mature parenting. But unless you want to legally take that on and can actually win that responsibility in court (which is unlikely), you can't do anything much there either. Unfortunately, it is very hard to terminate parental rights just because parents are immature, dirty, incompetent or can't manage money. It has to be something that CPS can put a bigger finger on, such as sexual abuse (PROVEN sexual abuse) or bruises all over the body that some professional, like a doctor, sees and reports. Grandparents have few rights in the US. When my son and his ex were divorcing, I read up on many of the laws and one consistent law throughout the country is that grandparents have no rights. Isn't that great? We can't even see the grandkids if the parents decide not to let us. I am sorry you are upset. I have often been upset myself. Just not over what the people my kids pick do. [/QUOTE]
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