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<blockquote data-quote="TerryJ2" data-source="post: 646246" data-attributes="member: 3419"><p>This is the stuff of major philosophy and all world religions. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p><em>"Does suffering have merit? Contrarily, is it arguing with reality to think that one can fully avoid suffering?"</em></p><p></p><p>I was raised old fashioned Catholic. They believed in suffering. I hated it.</p><p>I discovered Epicurus and Ayn Rand, who believed in happiness (as does Rita Mae Brown and others) but who gave a black eye to hedonism.</p><p></p><p>No, of course we can't avoid suffering. But to believe that we have earned it and that it is our lot as a species is wrong. Humans are so much more than that. We have so much potential. And we are so lucky to be Americans (some people are born into devastation and never get a chance. I think of starving refugees and stick-thin babies who never live more than a month or two). There is a line in "The Sound of Music," where Maria falls in love and sings, "I must have done something right," --the quintessential Catholic philosophy of <em>earning</em> good and evil, by which I was raised.</p><p></p><p>Makes me sad and ticks me off at the same time.</p><p></p><p>I'll get off my soapbox now. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TerryJ2, post: 646246, member: 3419"] This is the stuff of major philosophy and all world religions. :) [I]"Does suffering have merit? Contrarily, is it arguing with reality to think that one can fully avoid suffering?"[/I] I was raised old fashioned Catholic. They believed in suffering. I hated it. I discovered Epicurus and Ayn Rand, who believed in happiness (as does Rita Mae Brown and others) but who gave a black eye to hedonism. No, of course we can't avoid suffering. But to believe that we have earned it and that it is our lot as a species is wrong. Humans are so much more than that. We have so much potential. And we are so lucky to be Americans (some people are born into devastation and never get a chance. I think of starving refugees and stick-thin babies who never live more than a month or two). There is a line in "The Sound of Music," where Maria falls in love and sings, "I must have done something right," --the quintessential Catholic philosophy of [I]earning[/I] good and evil, by which I was raised. Makes me sad and ticks me off at the same time. I'll get off my soapbox now. :) [/QUOTE]
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