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<blockquote data-quote="recoveringenabler" data-source="post: 646335" data-attributes="member: 13542"><p>HLM, I am also a fan of Victor Frankl. I read Man's Search for meaning when I was quite young, in my early twenties, and it had a lasting impression on me. The fact that he was in a concentration camp and lost his entire family and chose to respond very differently, was at that time in my life, a revelation. I think that book set the stage for me to begin to look at life in a different way, in particular about how we suffer. It had never occurred to me that we had a choice in it.</p><p></p><p>Here are a couple of quotes of his that really define it for me:</p><p></p><p>“When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves.”</p><p></p><p>“Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms—to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one’s own way.”</p><p></p><p>“The one thing you can’t take away from me is the way I choose to respond to what you do to me. The last of one’s freedoms is to choose one’s attitude in any given circumstance."</p><p></p><p>"<em>Between stimulus and response, there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom" </em>(I just love this one!)</p><p></p><p>“In some ways suffering ceases to be suffering at the moment it finds a meaning, such as the meaning of a sacrifice.”</p><p></p><p>“Forces beyond your control can take away everything you possess except one thing, your freedom to choose how you will respond to the situation.”</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I have that kind of personality too MWM, my mind can be like a steel trap when it comes to thinking and feeling. It's taken me most of my life to learn that "I don't have to believe everything I think!" Once I began to realize that I had a choice, I began to figure out that if I could 'think' my way IN to a funk, I could 'think' my way OUT too.</p><p></p><p>I also lean in the direction of Buddhism because to me, it makes the most sense. Compassion, kindness, non judgement, personal responsibility for our actions, it represents how I feel in my heart. </p><p></p><p>This conversation has been intriguing, thank you for your insights, I always come away, like HLM mentioned, with a new slant, some cool tidbit to think about.....keeping an open mind to all of our views..........<em>just wonderful.</em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="recoveringenabler, post: 646335, member: 13542"] HLM, I am also a fan of Victor Frankl. I read Man's Search for meaning when I was quite young, in my early twenties, and it had a lasting impression on me. The fact that he was in a concentration camp and lost his entire family and chose to respond very differently, was at that time in my life, a revelation. I think that book set the stage for me to begin to look at life in a different way, in particular about how we suffer. It had never occurred to me that we had a choice in it. Here are a couple of quotes of his that really define it for me: “When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves.” “Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms—to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one’s own way.” “The one thing you can’t take away from me is the way I choose to respond to what you do to me. The last of one’s freedoms is to choose one’s attitude in any given circumstance." "[I]Between stimulus and response, there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom" [/I](I just love this one!) “In some ways suffering ceases to be suffering at the moment it finds a meaning, such as the meaning of a sacrifice.” “Forces beyond your control can take away everything you possess except one thing, your freedom to choose how you will respond to the situation.” I have that kind of personality too MWM, my mind can be like a steel trap when it comes to thinking and feeling. It's taken me most of my life to learn that "I don't have to believe everything I think!" Once I began to realize that I had a choice, I began to figure out that if I could 'think' my way IN to a funk, I could 'think' my way OUT too. I also lean in the direction of Buddhism because to me, it makes the most sense. Compassion, kindness, non judgement, personal responsibility for our actions, it represents how I feel in my heart. This conversation has been intriguing, thank you for your insights, I always come away, like HLM mentioned, with a new slant, some cool tidbit to think about.....keeping an open mind to all of our views..........[I]just wonderful.[/I] [/QUOTE]
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