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<blockquote data-quote="Copabanana" data-source="post: 708491" data-attributes="member: 18958"><p>Hi pigless.</p><p></p><p>EstherfromJerusalem posts here very occasionally. She is an old-timer here who really does live in Jerusalem. She posted to me that even in Israel it is the same. That there was a huge uproar a few years ago when the younger generations demanded that there be public discussion of their real history, not just abstractly but personally.</p><p></p><p>She said that her parents, too, kept it secret, and I think this is what she said that her mother when confronted was extremely upset. It was as if these people could not and would not integrate this experience into their "real lives." They wanted to dissociate it from the lives they had found as refuge.</p><p></p><p>I have been dealing a lot with this lately in my own life. How to think about my life, myself, and life itself--in relation to evil. I know this sounds dramatic but let me explain.</p><p></p><p>In our culture we believe in personal responsibility. And what we "make happen" in our lives defines us and makes us feel pride, how we "develop." In my own life I have been an activist to develop myself. Except, guess what? I have encountered a lot of pain and cruelty and limitation. Am I responsible for these bad results? Is what happened to me my fault? Did I create the pain as well as the success?</p><p></p><p>So I am striving to understand this in a spiritual sense and to integrate this understanding into some kind of self-forgiveness.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Copabanana, post: 708491, member: 18958"] Hi pigless. EstherfromJerusalem posts here very occasionally. She is an old-timer here who really does live in Jerusalem. She posted to me that even in Israel it is the same. That there was a huge uproar a few years ago when the younger generations demanded that there be public discussion of their real history, not just abstractly but personally. She said that her parents, too, kept it secret, and I think this is what she said that her mother when confronted was extremely upset. It was as if these people could not and would not integrate this experience into their "real lives." They wanted to dissociate it from the lives they had found as refuge. I have been dealing a lot with this lately in my own life. How to think about my life, myself, and life itself--in relation to evil. I know this sounds dramatic but let me explain. In our culture we believe in personal responsibility. And what we "make happen" in our lives defines us and makes us feel pride, how we "develop." In my own life I have been an activist to develop myself. Except, guess what? I have encountered a lot of pain and cruelty and limitation. Am I responsible for these bad results? Is what happened to me my fault? Did I create the pain as well as the success? So I am striving to understand this in a spiritual sense and to integrate this understanding into some kind of self-forgiveness. [/QUOTE]
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