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<blockquote data-quote="Sheila" data-source="post: 56861" data-attributes="member: 23"><p>Martie: I agree that NCLB is feeding the push-out. But as Ive opined before, until there is some individual criminal consequences for SEA and school district administrators who intentionally circumvent the law, these type actions are not likely to change whether its IDEA, NCLB or XYZ related.</p><p></p><p>Kathy: Thanks for the clarification. When I read host, I interpreted the students were being considered guests.</p><p></p><p>I dont know exactly how AYP is applied. I do recall that within the last +/- 2 yrs, the percentage of Special Education students that were being opted out of the standard accountability testing was lowered. This was done because Districts were strongly steering sd IEP committee members to push it to help hold the line on the budget. </p><p></p><p>The alternative testing percentage change may have been a Texas issue rather than a national issue I dont know because I dont follow those type issues within NCLB closely.</p><p></p><p>A grave problem with educational laws is that they are never appropriately funded. They will never be appropriately funded unless voters demand it. Lack of funding causes all types of problems including putting a lot of pressure on teachers for things that are beyond their control, e.g., lack of adequately trained support staff, too high student/teacher ratios, etc.</p><p></p><p>I interpret the last paragraph of the Special Education teachers comments to ultimately say she wants things the way they were prior to NCLB coming on-line, e.g., with IDEA controlling and progress measured from IEP goals and objectives. As long as IDEA is fully implemented and enforced, thats not a bad thing in my opinion.</p><p></p><p>The reality is, however, that IDEA has never has been fully funded, implemented or enforced. IEP goals and objectives are too often so vague as to be worthless.</p><p></p><p>As a parent, one of the things I like most about NCLB is that in Texas the testing is directly tied to defined Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills by grade. (See <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20080822034422/http://www.tea.state.tx.us/teks/grade/Fifth_Grade.pdf" target="_blank">https://web.archive.org/web/20080822034422/http://www.tea.state.tx.us/teks/grade/Fifth_Grade.pdf</a> for an example) If a student doesn't pass the accountability testing, it should flag a parent that their child is not on grade`level and intervention is needed.</p><p></p><p>Because educating children is so important to me personally, and on this board we deal mostly with parents trying to keep their kids in school, its hard to fathom there are so many irresponsible parents out there. Truancy law in Texas is pretty strong. But one thing is for certain a teacher cant teach a student thats not available. Its a pretty sad state of affairs when sd personnel have to go door-to-door trying to get kids to go to school.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sheila, post: 56861, member: 23"] Martie: I agree that NCLB is feeding the push-out. But as Ive opined before, until there is some individual criminal consequences for SEA and school district administrators who intentionally circumvent the law, these type actions are not likely to change whether its IDEA, NCLB or XYZ related. Kathy: Thanks for the clarification. When I read host, I interpreted the students were being considered guests. I dont know exactly how AYP is applied. I do recall that within the last +/- 2 yrs, the percentage of Special Education students that were being opted out of the standard accountability testing was lowered. This was done because Districts were strongly steering sd IEP committee members to push it to help hold the line on the budget. The alternative testing percentage change may have been a Texas issue rather than a national issue I dont know because I dont follow those type issues within NCLB closely. A grave problem with educational laws is that they are never appropriately funded. They will never be appropriately funded unless voters demand it. Lack of funding causes all types of problems including putting a lot of pressure on teachers for things that are beyond their control, e.g., lack of adequately trained support staff, too high student/teacher ratios, etc. I interpret the last paragraph of the Special Education teachers comments to ultimately say she wants things the way they were prior to NCLB coming on-line, e.g., with IDEA controlling and progress measured from IEP goals and objectives. As long as IDEA is fully implemented and enforced, thats not a bad thing in my opinion. The reality is, however, that IDEA has never has been fully funded, implemented or enforced. IEP goals and objectives are too often so vague as to be worthless. As a parent, one of the things I like most about NCLB is that in Texas the testing is directly tied to defined Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills by grade. (See [url]https://web.archive.org/web/20080822034422/http://www.tea.state.tx.us/teks/grade/Fifth_Grade.pdf[/url] for an example) If a student doesn't pass the accountability testing, it should flag a parent that their child is not on grade`level and intervention is needed. Because educating children is so important to me personally, and on this board we deal mostly with parents trying to keep their kids in school, its hard to fathom there are so many irresponsible parents out there. Truancy law in Texas is pretty strong. But one thing is for certain a teacher cant teach a student thats not available. Its a pretty sad state of affairs when sd personnel have to go door-to-door trying to get kids to go to school. [/QUOTE]
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