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<blockquote data-quote="SuZir" data-source="post: 644467" data-attributes="member: 14557"><p>The thing here is: in how bad place your daughter is right now mentally? And is it getting worse? How desperate she may come and how desperate measures she may then try? Does she look the best of her children or are children something she sees as part of her or her right to have?</p><p></p><p>I'm asking these questions because within couple months there has been two awful tragedies with mothers who are mentally ill in my neck of woods. Other one killed her kids and herself and tried to kill/hurt her husband and few strangers. They were not physically hurt, but this woman made it sure the father did see his children die and would blame himself as much as possible. That one was about jealousy, wanting to control the husband and feeling herself slighted. She is dead, so no psychological evaluation for her, but it seemed she had at least some traits if narcissistic personality disorder.</p><p></p><p>Other mother killed just her kids and then called her husband to tell what she had done. She didn't hurt herself or outsiders. She had had onset of bipolar disorder few years earlier and made a total life style change from business world to being a wellness instructor after that (she turned to Buddhist, became yoga instructor, worked as an alternative therapist and mindfulness instructor.) Her motivation is apparently more about feeling that she wasn't good enough mother, so she waited till husband left her alone with the kids for couple hours and killed them after planning it few weeks. She was treated for bipolar, but medications didn't work too well for her all the time.</p><p></p><p>These are both morbid stories and ones no one ever can imagine could happen to their loved ones, however troubled they are, but these are stories that do happen, every day around the globe. If you have reason to fear her children would not be safe with her in all circumstances, when it is not something you can just bow out and let them figure out.</p><p></p><p>Sorry for being this blunt.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SuZir, post: 644467, member: 14557"] The thing here is: in how bad place your daughter is right now mentally? And is it getting worse? How desperate she may come and how desperate measures she may then try? Does she look the best of her children or are children something she sees as part of her or her right to have? I'm asking these questions because within couple months there has been two awful tragedies with mothers who are mentally ill in my neck of woods. Other one killed her kids and herself and tried to kill/hurt her husband and few strangers. They were not physically hurt, but this woman made it sure the father did see his children die and would blame himself as much as possible. That one was about jealousy, wanting to control the husband and feeling herself slighted. She is dead, so no psychological evaluation for her, but it seemed she had at least some traits if narcissistic personality disorder. Other mother killed just her kids and then called her husband to tell what she had done. She didn't hurt herself or outsiders. She had had onset of bipolar disorder few years earlier and made a total life style change from business world to being a wellness instructor after that (she turned to Buddhist, became yoga instructor, worked as an alternative therapist and mindfulness instructor.) Her motivation is apparently more about feeling that she wasn't good enough mother, so she waited till husband left her alone with the kids for couple hours and killed them after planning it few weeks. She was treated for bipolar, but medications didn't work too well for her all the time. These are both morbid stories and ones no one ever can imagine could happen to their loved ones, however troubled they are, but these are stories that do happen, every day around the globe. If you have reason to fear her children would not be safe with her in all circumstances, when it is not something you can just bow out and let them figure out. Sorry for being this blunt. [/QUOTE]
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