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<blockquote data-quote="rebelson" data-source="post: 695297" data-attributes="member: 19966"><p>Important update since this morning. He relapsed AGAIN last night. Curfew was 9pm. He and 2 other "new" guys to the SL house, all ''supposedly'' went out together. The word is they hit the beach, a house party, were hanging with some girls...and they were all drinking. Way after 9p sometime, the house mgr started calling all 3 and my son was the only one who picked up. Said he sounded 'inebriated'. They got home late, son and 1 of the guys failed the breathalyzer and the 3rd guy refused and said he was 'outta there', he ditched the SL house.</p><p></p><p>The PHP, stabilization house associated with his sober living place was full so they brought son and the other guy to a different Faith-based PHP. That was early this morning. He will be there for 2wks. I heard all this around 4pm, from his SL therapist-who he's only seen twice. She is sharp as a tack. She has already figured out his problem, and can put it into context that truly makes sense to me. She says it's a mixture of social and generalized anxiety. She told me that from what she knows so far about him, he needs more inpatient to deal with his anxiety. She says until and unless he gets that under control, he won't be able to move forward. She said he acts tough and says he's got it under control, but he DOESN'T. She said she (like I) truly believes he wants sobriety. He just really needs to get the anxiety under control, FIRST.</p><p></p><p></p><p>GN - you are very knowledgeable. I do not know what is going on with what he was describing to me. He does not take any prescription medications. I do know he said the restlessness is situational. It seems to occur when he's in the presence of other ppl, and when the setting is that they are all sitting down. In IOP group, is one setting he said, another time it happens is when he's in the tv room watching tv with the other SL guys. He said when he's at other places alone, or like at the gym when he's working out solo...and he sits down in between reps or to rest - the restlessness does not occur. So, could it be the anxiety of sitting in a room with others, when it's quiet? Or, like SWOT said, a symptom of PAW (post acute withdrawal), which can last up to 18 months? OR, perhaps it was akathisia - possibly brought on by some DXM that he took that day but didn't bother to tell me about? It is a psychoactive, and they can cause akathisia, I read. I just don't know. He is an intense person and can sometimes embellish things and at the same time withhold details that would be important to add, helpful for me to know. <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/cautious.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":cautious:" title="cautious :cautious:" data-shortname=":cautious:" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, he's been in recovery since end of March. However, he's not been transparent at ALL with any of the staff regarding the anxiety. From the psychologist to the therapists to the sober living house mgr, staff, etc. He's kept it hidden. In essence, he's wasted the past 4 months of help he's had at his finger tips. At least NOW, he sees that that was a mistake. And, I and his therapist, think now, that he sees he does NOT have this. Does that mean he'll be eager to try a medication? OR, spill out all the beans? No. But, I can hope.</p><p></p><p>This is a good point. My husband tells me to not give him my opinions on different things like I do. I know I need to just 'listen' more. But, as moms, we want to "help". So, sometimes, I will chime in with something I might think is causing his situational anxiety...like could it be 'claustrophobia' in the settings noted above? Where he gets the restlessness. Knowing he's 'stuck' there (IOP group) or has to sit still, (with-guys watching tv) causes him to feel trapped maybe. Is what I shared with him. Hub says to not say that stuff as I am not a 'therapist'. He is right.</p><p></p><p>I have not talked to son. I'm a bit disappointed, that he has literally wasted the 110+ precious days he's had in inpatient, SL, IOP, etc., where he could've been really getting some deep help for his anxiety. But, with each setback, I think they learn 'some thing'. It's usually a long process, that you cannot rush, I hear.</p><p></p><p>*Sigh*</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rebelson, post: 695297, member: 19966"] Important update since this morning. He relapsed AGAIN last night. Curfew was 9pm. He and 2 other "new" guys to the SL house, all ''supposedly'' went out together. The word is they hit the beach, a house party, were hanging with some girls...and they were all drinking. Way after 9p sometime, the house mgr started calling all 3 and my son was the only one who picked up. Said he sounded 'inebriated'. They got home late, son and 1 of the guys failed the breathalyzer and the 3rd guy refused and said he was 'outta there', he ditched the SL house. The PHP, stabilization house associated with his sober living place was full so they brought son and the other guy to a different Faith-based PHP. That was early this morning. He will be there for 2wks. I heard all this around 4pm, from his SL therapist-who he's only seen twice. She is sharp as a tack. She has already figured out his problem, and can put it into context that truly makes sense to me. She says it's a mixture of social and generalized anxiety. She told me that from what she knows so far about him, he needs more inpatient to deal with his anxiety. She says until and unless he gets that under control, he won't be able to move forward. She said he acts tough and says he's got it under control, but he DOESN'T. She said she (like I) truly believes he wants sobriety. He just really needs to get the anxiety under control, FIRST. GN - you are very knowledgeable. I do not know what is going on with what he was describing to me. He does not take any prescription medications. I do know he said the restlessness is situational. It seems to occur when he's in the presence of other ppl, and when the setting is that they are all sitting down. In IOP group, is one setting he said, another time it happens is when he's in the tv room watching tv with the other SL guys. He said when he's at other places alone, or like at the gym when he's working out solo...and he sits down in between reps or to rest - the restlessness does not occur. So, could it be the anxiety of sitting in a room with others, when it's quiet? Or, like SWOT said, a symptom of PAW (post acute withdrawal), which can last up to 18 months? OR, perhaps it was akathisia - possibly brought on by some DXM that he took that day but didn't bother to tell me about? It is a psychoactive, and they can cause akathisia, I read. I just don't know. He is an intense person and can sometimes embellish things and at the same time withhold details that would be important to add, helpful for me to know. :cautious: Yes, he's been in recovery since end of March. However, he's not been transparent at ALL with any of the staff regarding the anxiety. From the psychologist to the therapists to the sober living house mgr, staff, etc. He's kept it hidden. In essence, he's wasted the past 4 months of help he's had at his finger tips. At least NOW, he sees that that was a mistake. And, I and his therapist, think now, that he sees he does NOT have this. Does that mean he'll be eager to try a medication? OR, spill out all the beans? No. But, I can hope. This is a good point. My husband tells me to not give him my opinions on different things like I do. I know I need to just 'listen' more. But, as moms, we want to "help". So, sometimes, I will chime in with something I might think is causing his situational anxiety...like could it be 'claustrophobia' in the settings noted above? Where he gets the restlessness. Knowing he's 'stuck' there (IOP group) or has to sit still, (with-guys watching tv) causes him to feel trapped maybe. Is what I shared with him. Hub says to not say that stuff as I am not a 'therapist'. He is right. I have not talked to son. I'm a bit disappointed, that he has literally wasted the 110+ precious days he's had in inpatient, SL, IOP, etc., where he could've been really getting some deep help for his anxiety. But, with each setback, I think they learn 'some thing'. It's usually a long process, that you cannot rush, I hear. *Sigh* [/QUOTE]
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