klmno
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If it wasn't enough for the gal to tell difficult child before court that the judge only had 2 options and it was his mom's fault that he wasn't coming home or going to Residential Treatment Center (RTC), difficult child said the PO came to him yesterday and told him it was his mom's fault that he didn't go to Residential Treatment Center (RTC). She told him it was because I was non-compliant with- mst services and in home services.
#1) I DO NOT believe that asking a judge to change an order for mst services to allow written recommendations from a state expert on difficult child's treatment to be pursued is the same thing as being non-compliant. We did meet with and do what mst guy required before that order was changed.
#2) In home services that were ordered a couple of days before the latest "knife at my throat" incident by PO had not even started. The PO said we would meet the person in mid-Feb. What was I supposed to do- instead of calling cops that night was I supposed to just asked difficult child to put the knife up for another 11 days because as soon as we could meet this therapist, the problem would be solved? And how is that being non-compliant?
#3) Who is it really that won't let this all go- me or those in the system? Who is it really that is instigating tensions between me and difficult child?
And then, there is a kid I mentioned in my other thread a few days ago- who did the same thing with a knife on his mom and is probably going to be taken from his mom. I found out today that he had been trialing abilify, just like my difficult child, when this happened. His mom took him off the abilify when this happened and they are trying to take the kid away from her for medical neglect- for taking him off the abilify. I suggested that she go speak with another psychiatrist and get some testimony from him/her. Anyway, she said she also noticed that around here, at least, these gal's and po's make their mind up what they want, then twist facts, don't investigate, don't talk to family members or therapist's, psychiatrist's etc, just go into court and mislead people into getting them to think whatever they want to.
I know that's probably hard for those who have never had this happen to believe that those in the system would do these things. But they do- and apparently, we aren't the only ones having to deal with it. My therapist just shakes her head- she said it is ridiculous for these people to be trying to tell difficult child that he could be home except I didn't do what they wanted- and completely ignore the fact that he pulled a knife on me and needs consequences of some sort. They are just using my son to get back at me and are not thinking at all about what is in his best interest, in my humble opinion. If they think for one second that these tacticts are making me any more motivated to work with them, they are sadly mistaken. It really makes me want to throw all their freaking pieces of paper in their faces. It sure doesn't lead me to trust them. If the people in the state Department of Juvenile Justice reinforce this even more for the next several months, ...well... things aren't going to turn out well.
That's my vent for the night- hopefully the week. LOL! No response necessary- yes I'm getting on with my life.
On a better note, difficult child was telling me things he was able to notice about his previous patterns with cleaning sprees, "mania", anxiety, etc. Too bad they don't already have him with a good therapist- they can't do this until he gets moved and that won't happen until the PO gets her paperwork finished. He is pretty insightful. He said he would start feeling hyper and anxious and could sense that "mania" might be coming on. He said he would clean during those periods because he knew that if he didn't, then he went manic that he would completely lose his temper when things were messy or he couldn't find something- that he would lose his temper and explode. I reminded him that the "mania" might not be true bipoklar- this really might be needing to learn with stress and anxiety better. He asked how, I told him he needed to work with a therapist and psychiatrist, but a lot could be learned without so much dependence on medications.
Fortunately, my son and the other boy I refferred to are getting along and are starting to talk to each other a little. They are both 14yo, in there for pulling a knife on their mom, their mom's are getting blamed for it, they are not blaming their mom's, they both have questionable BiPolar (BP) diagnosis's and have had numerous medication combo's/trials, they both excel in math and are intelligent but struggle in some similar areas. Very coincidental.
#1) I DO NOT believe that asking a judge to change an order for mst services to allow written recommendations from a state expert on difficult child's treatment to be pursued is the same thing as being non-compliant. We did meet with and do what mst guy required before that order was changed.
#2) In home services that were ordered a couple of days before the latest "knife at my throat" incident by PO had not even started. The PO said we would meet the person in mid-Feb. What was I supposed to do- instead of calling cops that night was I supposed to just asked difficult child to put the knife up for another 11 days because as soon as we could meet this therapist, the problem would be solved? And how is that being non-compliant?
#3) Who is it really that won't let this all go- me or those in the system? Who is it really that is instigating tensions between me and difficult child?
And then, there is a kid I mentioned in my other thread a few days ago- who did the same thing with a knife on his mom and is probably going to be taken from his mom. I found out today that he had been trialing abilify, just like my difficult child, when this happened. His mom took him off the abilify when this happened and they are trying to take the kid away from her for medical neglect- for taking him off the abilify. I suggested that she go speak with another psychiatrist and get some testimony from him/her. Anyway, she said she also noticed that around here, at least, these gal's and po's make their mind up what they want, then twist facts, don't investigate, don't talk to family members or therapist's, psychiatrist's etc, just go into court and mislead people into getting them to think whatever they want to.
I know that's probably hard for those who have never had this happen to believe that those in the system would do these things. But they do- and apparently, we aren't the only ones having to deal with it. My therapist just shakes her head- she said it is ridiculous for these people to be trying to tell difficult child that he could be home except I didn't do what they wanted- and completely ignore the fact that he pulled a knife on me and needs consequences of some sort. They are just using my son to get back at me and are not thinking at all about what is in his best interest, in my humble opinion. If they think for one second that these tacticts are making me any more motivated to work with them, they are sadly mistaken. It really makes me want to throw all their freaking pieces of paper in their faces. It sure doesn't lead me to trust them. If the people in the state Department of Juvenile Justice reinforce this even more for the next several months, ...well... things aren't going to turn out well.
That's my vent for the night- hopefully the week. LOL! No response necessary- yes I'm getting on with my life.
On a better note, difficult child was telling me things he was able to notice about his previous patterns with cleaning sprees, "mania", anxiety, etc. Too bad they don't already have him with a good therapist- they can't do this until he gets moved and that won't happen until the PO gets her paperwork finished. He is pretty insightful. He said he would start feeling hyper and anxious and could sense that "mania" might be coming on. He said he would clean during those periods because he knew that if he didn't, then he went manic that he would completely lose his temper when things were messy or he couldn't find something- that he would lose his temper and explode. I reminded him that the "mania" might not be true bipoklar- this really might be needing to learn with stress and anxiety better. He asked how, I told him he needed to work with a therapist and psychiatrist, but a lot could be learned without so much dependence on medications.
Fortunately, my son and the other boy I refferred to are getting along and are starting to talk to each other a little. They are both 14yo, in there for pulling a knife on their mom, their mom's are getting blamed for it, they are not blaming their mom's, they both have questionable BiPolar (BP) diagnosis's and have had numerous medication combo's/trials, they both excel in math and are intelligent but struggle in some similar areas. Very coincidental.
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