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<blockquote data-quote="Copabanana" data-source="post: 706624" data-attributes="member: 18958"><p>I am doing intermittent fasting. The variation that works for me (or I hope it does) is the 5/2 where two days a week you radically lower your caloric intake, in my case, to less than 600 calories a day.</p><p></p><p>There are other versions whereby you fast a part of the day. That would mean, for example, you do not eat breakfast but eat only during a window each day of so many hours. Like if you eat from 12pm to 6pm your fast each day would be 18 hours. For me this version would be harder. (Except for this. I like milk in my coffee. I was wondering if that broke the fast. Just last night I read this: that under 50 calories does not break the fast. I could do that. If I can drink coffee or tea, I would be, I think able to confine my eating to a 5 or 6 hour window at night say from 12 to 6 pm.)</p><p></p><p>The nutritionist I went to for 2 years knew a woman who lost a great deal of weight this way. She only allowed herself to eat during the day. She was a physician I think. She was very active during the day in her work. She allowed herself to eat as she wished during the day. Except this is how counter-intuitive it was: She was so busy and distracted, she ate quite moderately and healthily. In her off time, at night, she fasted. I find this very interesting, because I would want to do the reverse. Not eat when I am indifferent to eating. When it is easiest for me.</p><p></p><p>Dr.Jason Fung, a nephrologist, of Canada puts his patients with heart disease and Type II diabetes on intermittent fasts and says diabetes and heart disease are reversed. He explains the science on a number of youtube videos and articles that are quite interesting and readable.</p><p></p><p>I have been trying to lose weight for almost 3 years. It will be 3 years in April or May. In that time I have lost only 20 pounds. That was enormously discouraging to me. I gained 60 pounds over a period of 5 years. I want to lose 30 pounds more.</p><p></p><p>For me, I am at the age where overweight really translates into a health risk. I am willing to do something what seems extreme, to get the bulk of the weight off.</p><p></p><p>In the past diets never worked for me. What has worked is movement. Lots of dancing, walking, activity in general. What happens is when I go back to work, I gain weight.</p><p></p><p>It is hard right now to motivate myself to increase greatly my exercise, but I will.</p><p></p><p>I did not on purpose set about fasting. (About 6 or 7 months ago, I did for a few days, on purpose, I dropped a couple of pounds.) What got me going again recently was remembering that if I ate only certain foods, I felt satiated. My appetite much decreased. I felt in control.</p><p></p><p>I remembered this when I had become discouraged because I was eating 9 cups of vegetables a day, thinking I would lose weight. I weighed myself, and I had gained.</p><p></p><p>The foods that take away my appetite and allow me to lose weight are: salmon, pears, and cottage cheese. And additionally I use about 1.5 cup of milk in my coffee or tea each day, in small amounts throughout the day. If I eat a little salmon a few times a day, I am satiated. I do not have cravings nor does my blood sugar spike, sending me off to stuff my face mindlessly. I eat a little bit of whatever I want. Like today I had half a corn tortilla with a bit of melted cheese (like a mini-quesadilla) and maybe a couple of ounces of beef. (Please do not be concerned about me. I will begin again adding back salad.)</p><p></p><p>I am not counting calories, but I doubt if I eat much more than 600 to 750 in the days that I cut down, which lately have been most days. Dr. Fung would call this calorie restriction, which he believes does not work. He holds to the idea that there should be a period during each day where one does not eat at all, which I will work towards.</p><p></p><p>I believe that many people may be like me: having a few foods that just agree with them, that satisfy them. I do not feel lethargic or weak-minded.</p><p></p><p>On the contrary. I think that gaining control over my food consumption is making me feel mentally stronger and healthier.</p><p></p><p>Many people swear by the vegan regimen to which RE ascribes. I went to a practitioner about 18 years ago who held the view that we all differed in our metabolic styles. He typed people into 4 general categories. I was a Fast Oxidizer. That meant I needed to eat a Paleo diet, more or less, to slow down my digestion, I think. My friend did the system, and she was advised to follow a largely plant-based diet.</p><p></p><p>When I followed that plan, any ailment I had at that time disappeared. I will not bore you as to what they were, but they quickly receded.</p><p> </p><p>What I am trying to say is that I do not think there is one ideal diet for everybody. Some people think, even, that our different ancestry determines to some extent our dietary requirements. My mother and my grandmother each settled into very rigid diets for most of their lives. My mother ate the same thing for breakfast, lunch and most dinners for all of the time I am able to remember. My grandmother, too, for sure. Remarkably to me, unconsciously they hit upon very similar dietary regimens. </p><p></p><p>I think if we become conscious about our choices and how they affect us, we can ourselves arrive at a personalized regimen that gives us both a sense of control and health.</p><p></p><p>Good Luck, CB.</p><p></p><p>I feel discouraged for you about the attitude of your daughter towards her life and life, generally. I feel for you. And for her.</p><p></p><p>Do you think she might consider enrolling in Job Corps?</p><p></p><p>Take care, CB.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Copabanana, post: 706624, member: 18958"] I am doing intermittent fasting. The variation that works for me (or I hope it does) is the 5/2 where two days a week you radically lower your caloric intake, in my case, to less than 600 calories a day. There are other versions whereby you fast a part of the day. That would mean, for example, you do not eat breakfast but eat only during a window each day of so many hours. Like if you eat from 12pm to 6pm your fast each day would be 18 hours. For me this version would be harder. (Except for this. I like milk in my coffee. I was wondering if that broke the fast. Just last night I read this: that under 50 calories does not break the fast. I could do that. If I can drink coffee or tea, I would be, I think able to confine my eating to a 5 or 6 hour window at night say from 12 to 6 pm.) The nutritionist I went to for 2 years knew a woman who lost a great deal of weight this way. She only allowed herself to eat during the day. She was a physician I think. She was very active during the day in her work. She allowed herself to eat as she wished during the day. Except this is how counter-intuitive it was: She was so busy and distracted, she ate quite moderately and healthily. In her off time, at night, she fasted. I find this very interesting, because I would want to do the reverse. Not eat when I am indifferent to eating. When it is easiest for me. Dr.Jason Fung, a nephrologist, of Canada puts his patients with heart disease and Type II diabetes on intermittent fasts and says diabetes and heart disease are reversed. He explains the science on a number of youtube videos and articles that are quite interesting and readable. I have been trying to lose weight for almost 3 years. It will be 3 years in April or May. In that time I have lost only 20 pounds. That was enormously discouraging to me. I gained 60 pounds over a period of 5 years. I want to lose 30 pounds more. For me, I am at the age where overweight really translates into a health risk. I am willing to do something what seems extreme, to get the bulk of the weight off. In the past diets never worked for me. What has worked is movement. Lots of dancing, walking, activity in general. What happens is when I go back to work, I gain weight. It is hard right now to motivate myself to increase greatly my exercise, but I will. I did not on purpose set about fasting. (About 6 or 7 months ago, I did for a few days, on purpose, I dropped a couple of pounds.) What got me going again recently was remembering that if I ate only certain foods, I felt satiated. My appetite much decreased. I felt in control. I remembered this when I had become discouraged because I was eating 9 cups of vegetables a day, thinking I would lose weight. I weighed myself, and I had gained. The foods that take away my appetite and allow me to lose weight are: salmon, pears, and cottage cheese. And additionally I use about 1.5 cup of milk in my coffee or tea each day, in small amounts throughout the day. If I eat a little salmon a few times a day, I am satiated. I do not have cravings nor does my blood sugar spike, sending me off to stuff my face mindlessly. I eat a little bit of whatever I want. Like today I had half a corn tortilla with a bit of melted cheese (like a mini-quesadilla) and maybe a couple of ounces of beef. (Please do not be concerned about me. I will begin again adding back salad.) I am not counting calories, but I doubt if I eat much more than 600 to 750 in the days that I cut down, which lately have been most days. Dr. Fung would call this calorie restriction, which he believes does not work. He holds to the idea that there should be a period during each day where one does not eat at all, which I will work towards. I believe that many people may be like me: having a few foods that just agree with them, that satisfy them. I do not feel lethargic or weak-minded. On the contrary. I think that gaining control over my food consumption is making me feel mentally stronger and healthier. Many people swear by the vegan regimen to which RE ascribes. I went to a practitioner about 18 years ago who held the view that we all differed in our metabolic styles. He typed people into 4 general categories. I was a Fast Oxidizer. That meant I needed to eat a Paleo diet, more or less, to slow down my digestion, I think. My friend did the system, and she was advised to follow a largely plant-based diet. When I followed that plan, any ailment I had at that time disappeared. I will not bore you as to what they were, but they quickly receded. What I am trying to say is that I do not think there is one ideal diet for everybody. Some people think, even, that our different ancestry determines to some extent our dietary requirements. My mother and my grandmother each settled into very rigid diets for most of their lives. My mother ate the same thing for breakfast, lunch and most dinners for all of the time I am able to remember. My grandmother, too, for sure. Remarkably to me, unconsciously they hit upon very similar dietary regimens. I think if we become conscious about our choices and how they affect us, we can ourselves arrive at a personalized regimen that gives us both a sense of control and health. Good Luck, CB. I feel discouraged for you about the attitude of your daughter towards her life and life, generally. I feel for you. And for her. Do you think she might consider enrolling in Job Corps? Take care, CB. [/QUOTE]
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