Last night Jabber and I talked and decided we'd loan our son and his girlfriend the remaining rent (they were $145 short - yes, that means he spent the original deposit money she sent...or a good portion) so they could get in the apartment they found. I mentioned the other day on a thread, it's $375 a month, they can just pay off the deposit a little at a time, and their only utilities they have to pay for themselves is electric and cable/internet if/when they get that. They didn't even check the references and such. We met the landlord today and she had them sign a six month lease and gave them the key. Jabber and our son got furnishings (some, at least) while girlfriend and I went shopping. On Black Friday - Jeeze - to buy things they needed, towels, dishes, pots and pans, etc. They still need a few more things, but I'm bought out for now. I spent WAY more than I should have, but they're settled. I also took her to Goodwill and got her a warm coat for winter. She got a job application there and inquired at another place with a hiring sign. Our son wants her to get a job where he works, they're hiring, but she doesn't want to work there. I agree. I told them both that's actually a bad idea, if for no other reason than they won't have any time apart if they get ticked off at each other. Time apart is a good thing. I got to visit quite a bit with the girlfriend. She actually is a sweet girl. Frankly, what she sees in my son, I don't know. She did tell me, this is his last chance. She won't put up with his messing up anymore. she mentioned his ridiculous temper and that he acts like a child. Funny, since he talks about how she doesn't know how to do things, but the truth is she seems very mature compared to him. I did tell her that if she and he break up, I will take her wherever she wants to go, even if it causes him to be estranged from me. I told her, I've been in a position where I was trapped and couldn't figure out how to get away from a bad relationship and I would not leave any woman in that position, no matter who the man is. I told him the same. We'll see how it goes. Monetarily and otherwise, our part is done. I might give them the occasional ride when the bus doesn't run, but otherwise it is up to them. We shall see.