Is there some new Dr. SPOCK book out that says : RULE #2 - Take your fussy infant to a public place and allow him/her to cry until he/she is blue in the face screaming in his/her car seat and ignore the child completely/utterly and thoroughly to teach him..... (oopsy my page is gone) Can you tell me what it said? 'Cause book of the completely idiotic parenting guide /How to get a good nights sleep with your new infant and peeve everyone off in the store - is missing THAT explaination - and I just told someone in our store that her toddler - had been crying for OVER 15 minutes - (I timed him on my cell phone stop watch and SHOWED HER) after he'd been crying for about three minutes) then said - I didn't come to give her parenting lessons - I was just POSITIVE someone abandoned him becuase I had NEVER EVER seen anyone let a 2 year old cry his brains out for over 15 minutes and ruin everyone elses shopping experieince without being abandoned by his MOTHER!!!!! WTH? They were in a GOODWILL store - it wasn't like they HAD to by toilet paper, diapers, or tylenol or something dire......they were buying clothes and 'whatnot" ----could have left, taken the child OUTSIDE to the car, calmed him down, and come back in when he was calmer. SOooooo she says (this was priceless) "Well ever since you've started telling parents they HAD to keep their children with them he gets mad when I have to keep him with me and he was angry because he couldn't wander the store like he usually did." I looked at her ----I swear to GOODNESS like a deer in the headlights - Our store is the size of a 1/2 football field with lots of doors -------and I said "HE's TWO...you're his Mother.....!" She shrugged, and then I said "And there is broken glass, knives, tables being moved in and out of here..... you're serious?" Then I bent down and picked up the bottom of a 5 gallon broken pickle jar...glass and held it up and said "SO if he came back playing with something like this? You'd be okay with it?" Her Mother stood there just glaring at her, and I shook my head amazed. I've asked the announcement be changed and it got results immediately - Instead of announcing - Keep your children with you - They now say - "When we find the parents of these children you will be asked to leave for the day." = no money for flea market goods to be sold - out of commission for the week. All week long since THAT announcement was began? Kids are now being kept at an arms length, in strollers or with their Fathers. Amazing. As for crying children? Five minute limit and then you're asked to take the child outside, calm it down and then return to the store.....you should not have to be asked.......but if you're going to be stupid - we're going to have a stupid rule. In five minutes - you should at least pick it up, cuddle it, find it a bottle, change it's diaper, take it to the bathroom, NOT allow it to pee on the floor, throw toys, have a tantrum....and all the while YOU keep shopping while we clean up the mess. The first time they tell ME to clean up puddle because a Mother didn't pay attention to it's child? Yeah - we'll see who grabs the mop and a bucket. Won't be me......ANd the sad thing is.....the Mothers that have had this done? Just stand there and smile ----and say No speaka english - Yeah well I speaka spanish --not gonna fly with me sista. UGH - seriously is there a new parenting technique or are these parents just idiots?