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<blockquote data-quote="Martie" data-source="post: 5352" data-attributes="member: 284"><p>Ok--here's the information you need"</p><p></p><p>First, don't get "policy" information from an aide--or sometimes even a teacher--but a teracher is a lot better start than an aide.</p><p></p><p>Second, there is no such thing a "potty training requirements" in Sepcial Ed. Generaltions of children were denied school access because of this. Not only do school have to "wipe," they have to change diapers, do intermittant clean catheterization IN ORDER FOR children to receive an education. This has been to the Supreme Court and back twice and the parents won in both cases.</p><p></p><p>Now, what should you do since you are mid-evaluation? I agree with SRL that the first thing to do is talk to the teacher and point out that your child is coming from a Spec. Ed environment, and he is in a regular class for a good reason, but there are going to be some transitional issues, and hygiene independence appears to be one of them. Kindergarten teachers are not unfamiliar with these sorts of problems; they may EXPECT whatever they want but there are always children who cannot manage their clothing, button, or wipe their noses as well as other parts of their bodies. These are non-Special Education children I am talking about.</p><p></p><p>Your child CANNOT be staffed to a more restrictive placement just because he needs to learn some things about hygiene. I am assuming he will qualify for Sp Ed, and when he does, then it is a matter of figuring who is responsible for teaching him this skill. Then he will learn how to do it, and it won't be a problem anymore. That is what schools are supposed to do: teach kids what they need to learn, not set up barriers to the child attending school in the first place.</p><p></p><p>Excluing children abitrarily or placing them in overly restricive settings due to limitations in either bodily function or lack of current learning is a very sensitive issue and your SD should be well aware of this. Do NOT accept anything other than treating this as something your child needs to learn.</p><p></p><p>by the way, PRIVATE preschools can say that children may not attend a program if they are not toilet trained--or they can say, kids can wear diapers or pull ups, but we won't change them. It is different with a private preschool--they have a legal right to set standards like this, since no child is entitled to attend a particular private preschool. However, because public schools are for ALL children, they most definitely cannot do this and be within the law.</p><p></p><p>Martie</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Martie, post: 5352, member: 284"] Ok--here's the information you need" First, don't get "policy" information from an aide--or sometimes even a teacher--but a teracher is a lot better start than an aide. Second, there is no such thing a "potty training requirements" in Sepcial Ed. Generaltions of children were denied school access because of this. Not only do school have to "wipe," they have to change diapers, do intermittant clean catheterization IN ORDER FOR children to receive an education. This has been to the Supreme Court and back twice and the parents won in both cases. Now, what should you do since you are mid-evaluation? I agree with SRL that the first thing to do is talk to the teacher and point out that your child is coming from a Spec. Ed environment, and he is in a regular class for a good reason, but there are going to be some transitional issues, and hygiene independence appears to be one of them. Kindergarten teachers are not unfamiliar with these sorts of problems; they may EXPECT whatever they want but there are always children who cannot manage their clothing, button, or wipe their noses as well as other parts of their bodies. These are non-Special Education children I am talking about. Your child CANNOT be staffed to a more restrictive placement just because he needs to learn some things about hygiene. I am assuming he will qualify for Sp Ed, and when he does, then it is a matter of figuring who is responsible for teaching him this skill. Then he will learn how to do it, and it won't be a problem anymore. That is what schools are supposed to do: teach kids what they need to learn, not set up barriers to the child attending school in the first place. Excluing children abitrarily or placing them in overly restricive settings due to limitations in either bodily function or lack of current learning is a very sensitive issue and your SD should be well aware of this. Do NOT accept anything other than treating this as something your child needs to learn. by the way, PRIVATE preschools can say that children may not attend a program if they are not toilet trained--or they can say, kids can wear diapers or pull ups, but we won't change them. It is different with a private preschool--they have a legal right to set standards like this, since no child is entitled to attend a particular private preschool. However, because public schools are for ALL children, they most definitely cannot do this and be within the law. Martie [/QUOTE]
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