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<blockquote data-quote="Nomad" data-source="post: 430386"><p>I too am wondering how things are going and if these threats are still on the table....<strong>GREATLY encourage you to call the police or a physician ASAP!</strong></p><p>It is interesting that your son shows some improvement when smoking marijuana. Don't you think this is a sign that the right medication + the right therapy could very well help him?</p><p>I do NOT think you should buy into his complaints that doctors/therapy are a waste of time. He is depressed, angry, frustrated and perhaps other things are going on .... on top of THAT! Not someone who is going to make a good analysis of the situation.</p><p>Marijuana is illegal and it is a proven fact that it can cause damage to the frontal lobe....it often and usual does cause people to lose their motivation. It is NOT an option.</p><p>And if he is legitmately thinking of suicide and/or hurting others, he needs to be in a hospital!</p><p>I do hope that you will <strong>seriously </strong>consider calling the<strong> police and/or a physician for assistance ASAP!</strong></p><p>Do not let his ranting and ravings influence you. As best as you can, shake out your emotions from all of this. It only weakens your ability to make the best decisions.</p><p>This is a VERY difficult, challenging and frustrating situation. </p><p>by the way, our difficult child did something similar to this once and we got her to the ER. It wasn't easy...but we got her there. They kept her for 72 hours. She now hesitates to make such statements.</p><p>Please read my tag line below.</p><p>This too is part of accountability. If he is seriously depressed, he should VOLUNTARILY take himself to the hospital. There is no shame. It is an unfortunate medical condition and he should seek medication to help him. He should NOT NOT NOT NOT burden people excessively by ranting and raging. It is only understandable to a point. He has been sick for a long time. He should be at a point that he "gets it." I'm not saying he should be happy about it. I'm not saying that it should be easy or that it wouldn't be a struggle. BUT, he should be a responsible human being and be able to say to himself, "Hxck, #@$! I'm badly depressed, I need to get to the hospital and try some medications to see if I can get better and he should be grateful to have a parent who "has his back." </p><p>Side note: AT this point "having his back," might be in a limited way. Staying in touch briefly with doctors. Making sure there are no obvious abuses going on. Making casual inquiries. Do NOT go overboard! He is not a child!</p><p>AND if he is faking it....he should understand that the logical consequences to such a thing is being taken to the hospital. </p><p>Some of the literature on socipathology suggests that in some cases as part of the problem perhaps some did not receive logical consquences in their youth and were allowed to engage in inappropriate behaviors without feeling the negative results of their inappropriate actions. These people (often males) were protected to a large extent by their mothers. The theory is that they guilt trip their mothers into protecting them. The book I am reading now (will try to post the title later) says that not all socipaths are the typical ones we read about. Some are simply irresponsible, tend to burden others and when called out....will guilt trip and try to get everyone to feel sorry for them. Some of this is speculation. However, it is speculation from those with great knowledge and expertise.</p><p>I wouldn't overly worry about this though. Is he actually worried that he is a sociopath? Or is this a game? If he is REALLY worried, then this lessons the chance that he is one!</p><p>I WOULD get some advice from a local expert, and if the threats are still on the table .... seriously consider calling the police, etc. And, again....get your emotions out of this. You can still do this and be largely detached. </p><p>Please don't let this escalate.</p><p>Please send an update.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nomad, post: 430386"] I too am wondering how things are going and if these threats are still on the table....[B]GREATLY encourage you to call the police or a physician ASAP![/B] It is interesting that your son shows some improvement when smoking marijuana. Don't you think this is a sign that the right medication + the right therapy could very well help him? I do NOT think you should buy into his complaints that doctors/therapy are a waste of time. He is depressed, angry, frustrated and perhaps other things are going on .... on top of THAT! Not someone who is going to make a good analysis of the situation. Marijuana is illegal and it is a proven fact that it can cause damage to the frontal lobe....it often and usual does cause people to lose their motivation. It is NOT an option. And if he is legitmately thinking of suicide and/or hurting others, he needs to be in a hospital! I do hope that you will [B]seriously [/B]consider calling the[B] police and/or a physician for assistance ASAP![/B] Do not let his ranting and ravings influence you. As best as you can, shake out your emotions from all of this. It only weakens your ability to make the best decisions. This is a VERY difficult, challenging and frustrating situation. by the way, our difficult child did something similar to this once and we got her to the ER. It wasn't easy...but we got her there. They kept her for 72 hours. She now hesitates to make such statements. Please read my tag line below. This too is part of accountability. If he is seriously depressed, he should VOLUNTARILY take himself to the hospital. There is no shame. It is an unfortunate medical condition and he should seek medication to help him. He should NOT NOT NOT NOT burden people excessively by ranting and raging. It is only understandable to a point. He has been sick for a long time. He should be at a point that he "gets it." I'm not saying he should be happy about it. I'm not saying that it should be easy or that it wouldn't be a struggle. BUT, he should be a responsible human being and be able to say to himself, "Hxck, #@$! I'm badly depressed, I need to get to the hospital and try some medications to see if I can get better and he should be grateful to have a parent who "has his back." Side note: AT this point "having his back," might be in a limited way. Staying in touch briefly with doctors. Making sure there are no obvious abuses going on. Making casual inquiries. Do NOT go overboard! He is not a child! AND if he is faking it....he should understand that the logical consequences to such a thing is being taken to the hospital. Some of the literature on socipathology suggests that in some cases as part of the problem perhaps some did not receive logical consquences in their youth and were allowed to engage in inappropriate behaviors without feeling the negative results of their inappropriate actions. These people (often males) were protected to a large extent by their mothers. The theory is that they guilt trip their mothers into protecting them. The book I am reading now (will try to post the title later) says that not all socipaths are the typical ones we read about. Some are simply irresponsible, tend to burden others and when called out....will guilt trip and try to get everyone to feel sorry for them. Some of this is speculation. However, it is speculation from those with great knowledge and expertise. I wouldn't overly worry about this though. Is he actually worried that he is a sociopath? Or is this a game? If he is REALLY worried, then this lessons the chance that he is one! I WOULD get some advice from a local expert, and if the threats are still on the table .... seriously consider calling the police, etc. And, again....get your emotions out of this. You can still do this and be largely detached. Please don't let this escalate. Please send an update. [/QUOTE]
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