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<blockquote data-quote="detachingmother" data-source="post: 679866" data-attributes="member: 20063"><p>He hasn't been on any drugs for a month, until he took seroquel yesterday. I briefly talked to him and his mindset is back to paranoia today. So, our talk was very brief. </p><p></p><p>I call it "I don't know which came first, the chicken or the egg?" </p><p></p><p>1. My mother had severe/acute psychosis/schizophrenia/paranoia with nasty hallucinations...she would literally see scary animals all over and all around her, as best as I can describe it, and scream...she saw them everywhere. In her closet, giant ape hands coming out of bedroom closet. She saw the wolf devils chasing her. She would seem normal sometimes too, and very smart---photographic memory and can draw anything. </p><p></p><p>She almost always thought someone was out to get her, and had the disposition of getting them before they got her. She was an "avid and prolific" shoplifter and bad check writer. She made her younger sister, who looked like her twin, do time in the county jail for her, and she too did her own time. --- absolutely dysfunctional. </p><p></p><p>She has been in TOTAL remission since about 1990. It was so strange. Looking back it was like that old scary mom died and a new one was born...I know how crazy this sounds, but it was like she started smoking pot, is the only thing I can think of, and she became a much more "normal" version of herself. She still smokes pot, and I liken her now to looking like a female Willie Nelson, however, she's been working in the field of mental health herself....yep, it's true. She is about to retire and is sick now with a few serious physical diseases.</p><p></p><p>So I believe my son is like her. This is one reason that I have so much faith in him making it. I've seen the nasty disease go into total remission.</p><p></p><p>2. The onset of schizophrenia, for the most part, starts to rear it's very ugly head at the beginning of young adulthood. I did see signs. And he did get worse around the time he became 17-19. </p><p></p><p>Gets tricky here, because this is also where he started doing dirty street drugs. Hence, which came first...chick or egg? I don't know.</p><p></p><p>Mom never did drugs early in life. She did start to self-medicate though down the road...around the age of 35- is where I remember her discovering Demerol, Valium, and a few other things. At least this was when I became aware of it. And, by then she was schizophrenic on her own, without illicit drug use. And the Demerol made her worse too and it took her awhile I think to figure it out...I was a kid, but I can look back and understand it now. She did Demerol for awhile, then marijuana came. I have drawn a few parallels here, but will leave it at that....</p><p></p><p>Mom spent time in a mental hospital called Lafayette. She was put on something but I can't remember and I do not talk to her about it anymore as when I do, she will go into some kind of denial mode. Not sure if that helped her or not, as I was very young, under 12. I do not think it did help, I Can hardly remember, but I do know it was shortly after that that the mental hospitals started closing. I love my mom, but let's just say, she was nightmarishly abusive. For years though now, I have completely forgiven her.</p><p></p><p>Son's docs do know the family history. When son starts in on a major episode... It has an almost PTSD sort of effect one me.</p><p></p><p>I also have to admit, youngest son, while he seems very well adapted, I don't know, I worry that he may end up "afflicted" too. So far, so good....</p><p></p><p>YES!!!! SK, I do think I need to go to Nara-non. Definitely. WHen I can afford it, I do go to a private therapist. She helps me with even day to day things. I need to go soon actually to something, I think a group would be helpful...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="detachingmother, post: 679866, member: 20063"] He hasn't been on any drugs for a month, until he took seroquel yesterday. I briefly talked to him and his mindset is back to paranoia today. So, our talk was very brief. I call it "I don't know which came first, the chicken or the egg?" 1. My mother had severe/acute psychosis/schizophrenia/paranoia with nasty hallucinations...she would literally see scary animals all over and all around her, as best as I can describe it, and scream...she saw them everywhere. In her closet, giant ape hands coming out of bedroom closet. She saw the wolf devils chasing her. She would seem normal sometimes too, and very smart---photographic memory and can draw anything. She almost always thought someone was out to get her, and had the disposition of getting them before they got her. She was an "avid and prolific" shoplifter and bad check writer. She made her younger sister, who looked like her twin, do time in the county jail for her, and she too did her own time. --- absolutely dysfunctional. She has been in TOTAL remission since about 1990. It was so strange. Looking back it was like that old scary mom died and a new one was born...I know how crazy this sounds, but it was like she started smoking pot, is the only thing I can think of, and she became a much more "normal" version of herself. She still smokes pot, and I liken her now to looking like a female Willie Nelson, however, she's been working in the field of mental health herself....yep, it's true. She is about to retire and is sick now with a few serious physical diseases. So I believe my son is like her. This is one reason that I have so much faith in him making it. I've seen the nasty disease go into total remission. 2. The onset of schizophrenia, for the most part, starts to rear it's very ugly head at the beginning of young adulthood. I did see signs. And he did get worse around the time he became 17-19. Gets tricky here, because this is also where he started doing dirty street drugs. Hence, which came first...chick or egg? I don't know. Mom never did drugs early in life. She did start to self-medicate though down the road...around the age of 35- is where I remember her discovering Demerol, Valium, and a few other things. At least this was when I became aware of it. And, by then she was schizophrenic on her own, without illicit drug use. And the Demerol made her worse too and it took her awhile I think to figure it out...I was a kid, but I can look back and understand it now. She did Demerol for awhile, then marijuana came. I have drawn a few parallels here, but will leave it at that.... Mom spent time in a mental hospital called Lafayette. She was put on something but I can't remember and I do not talk to her about it anymore as when I do, she will go into some kind of denial mode. Not sure if that helped her or not, as I was very young, under 12. I do not think it did help, I Can hardly remember, but I do know it was shortly after that that the mental hospitals started closing. I love my mom, but let's just say, she was nightmarishly abusive. For years though now, I have completely forgiven her. Son's docs do know the family history. When son starts in on a major episode... It has an almost PTSD sort of effect one me. I also have to admit, youngest son, while he seems very well adapted, I don't know, I worry that he may end up "afflicted" too. So far, so good.... YES!!!! SK, I do think I need to go to Nara-non. Definitely. WHen I can afford it, I do go to a private therapist. She helps me with even day to day things. I need to go soon actually to something, I think a group would be helpful... [/QUOTE]
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