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<blockquote data-quote="klmno" data-source="post: 344392" data-attributes="member: 3699"><p>Well, the part about the fed government stepping in after they evaluation'd and then giving options to the sd might be the "forcing of hand" due to not having enough passing grades that those people in the school systems were referring to when they told me this kind of stuff was related to the No Child Left Behind- due to what the fed government is demanding in order to get funding. I'm not sure because I don't work in the system myself but according to those people who did (and therefore <em>might</em> have a biased perspective), it was the requirements put on a sd that somehow effected who they hired, retained, what they paid them, and who got frustrated and left teaching altogether. But again, I can't honestly say because I have not worked in it myself.</p><p></p><p>Nancy, I'm not saying teachers start out getting paid well. In some professions people can usually expect a good pay but in some, they cannot. In my profession you have to either have a 5-year professional degree or a master's degree. You get out of college making much less than the 28,000 in almost all cases- no matter what city you live in. You work your butt off working overtime for no extra pay, doing the worst jobs, and studying for the exam that you can't take until you have so many hours in, and almost all have to pay for the test (roughly 2500 ni study materials and seminar costs and other related cost for national record keeping). A plumber without a high school diploma or GED gets paid more. So I get that they aren't paid what they are worth (the ones that aren't really bad), but they need to realize that this applies to a lot of college educated professionals- not just them and it didn't just start when our economy plummeted- it has always been this way. No offense was or is meant to teachers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="klmno, post: 344392, member: 3699"] Well, the part about the fed government stepping in after they evaluation'd and then giving options to the sd might be the "forcing of hand" due to not having enough passing grades that those people in the school systems were referring to when they told me this kind of stuff was related to the No Child Left Behind- due to what the fed government is demanding in order to get funding. I'm not sure because I don't work in the system myself but according to those people who did (and therefore [I]might[/I] have a biased perspective), it was the requirements put on a sd that somehow effected who they hired, retained, what they paid them, and who got frustrated and left teaching altogether. But again, I can't honestly say because I have not worked in it myself. Nancy, I'm not saying teachers start out getting paid well. In some professions people can usually expect a good pay but in some, they cannot. In my profession you have to either have a 5-year professional degree or a master's degree. You get out of college making much less than the 28,000 in almost all cases- no matter what city you live in. You work your butt off working overtime for no extra pay, doing the worst jobs, and studying for the exam that you can't take until you have so many hours in, and almost all have to pay for the test (roughly 2500 ni study materials and seminar costs and other related cost for national record keeping). A plumber without a high school diploma or GED gets paid more. So I get that they aren't paid what they are worth (the ones that aren't really bad), but they need to realize that this applies to a lot of college educated professionals- not just them and it didn't just start when our economy plummeted- it has always been this way. No offense was or is meant to teachers. [/QUOTE]
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