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<blockquote data-quote="klmno" data-source="post: 344405" data-attributes="member: 3699"><p>Maybe I misinterpreted then- I don't think teachers make too much money and didn't realize that was your original point. I specifically said I don't think they get paid well.</p><p></p><p>The seminar costs and study materials and so forth I was referring to weren't for education- they were for the test to get licensed, which happens a very minimum of 3 years after college graduation- we didn't get that stuff paid for- I was trying to compare to what you said about teachers not getting continuing education paid for.</p><p></p><p>Yes, there are several if not many college educated people who start in their professions making lower amounts than teachers and have less job security and less benefits and work just as hard. That was the only point I was trying to make. I'm one of them so I am sure not saying it's enough money or complaining that they get too much- I think all of those in professions like that should start out getting more. But while I'm not complaining about them, I can't feel the same sympathy for them as I would if I hadn't started out lower and being just as professional and educated.</p><p></p><p>A teacher might not complain about someone starting out at 35,000, but are they going to feel too sympathetic given what they start out at? But I do agree with you that we should have a good idea of average pay before going into a profession and we choose our own professions weighing all things like job satisfaction, requirements, etc.- or at least, we all should.</p><p></p><p>And FWIW, I have tried to advocate in my own jurisdiction for the school board to put discipline back in the classroom for years. I started that right after I learned that an elementary school could have a kid arrested but our school board had deemed it "inappropriate punishment" to tell a child to write sentences as a punishment, even if the parent put their permission in writing. That's when I started realizing that a lot of this is the school board's doings and of course, who ever voted for these people.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="klmno, post: 344405, member: 3699"] Maybe I misinterpreted then- I don't think teachers make too much money and didn't realize that was your original point. I specifically said I don't think they get paid well. The seminar costs and study materials and so forth I was referring to weren't for education- they were for the test to get licensed, which happens a very minimum of 3 years after college graduation- we didn't get that stuff paid for- I was trying to compare to what you said about teachers not getting continuing education paid for. Yes, there are several if not many college educated people who start in their professions making lower amounts than teachers and have less job security and less benefits and work just as hard. That was the only point I was trying to make. I'm one of them so I am sure not saying it's enough money or complaining that they get too much- I think all of those in professions like that should start out getting more. But while I'm not complaining about them, I can't feel the same sympathy for them as I would if I hadn't started out lower and being just as professional and educated. A teacher might not complain about someone starting out at 35,000, but are they going to feel too sympathetic given what they start out at? But I do agree with you that we should have a good idea of average pay before going into a profession and we choose our own professions weighing all things like job satisfaction, requirements, etc.- or at least, we all should. And FWIW, I have tried to advocate in my own jurisdiction for the school board to put discipline back in the classroom for years. I started that right after I learned that an elementary school could have a kid arrested but our school board had deemed it "inappropriate punishment" to tell a child to write sentences as a punishment, even if the parent put their permission in writing. That's when I started realizing that a lot of this is the school board's doings and of course, who ever voted for these people. [/QUOTE]
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