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<blockquote data-quote="Kathy813" data-source="post: 345071" data-attributes="member: 1967"><p>I have deliberately stayed away from this thread as it was a thread like this that made me leave the board once before. I just can't stop myself though . . .</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Nancy ~ What planet does this woman live on? My school day lasts from 6:30 - 3:30 at a minimum and I am busy every minute of the day. Then I go home and grade papers at night and on the weekends (in fact, I just finished grading two sets of tests this morning). I spend my time off during the summer teaching summer school and online classes so that I can make a decent salary. </p><p></p><p>EW ~ I feel your pain! The teachers here in Georgia that went through National Board Certification were promised a 10% raise for 10 years. This year, the governor and legislature decided it was too expensive and cut it effectively immediately no matter how many years were left in the original ten for the teachers that had worked so hard to obtain their NBC. We don't have unions (another common misconception especially if you listen to talk radio hosts) so there was nothing those teachers could do. A good friend of mine and his wife are both teachers with NBC and they lost 10,000 of their family income with a stroke of a pen. There is now talk of trying to get back at least 10% of a STARTING teachers pay for teachers with NB certification but it doesn't look good in the big budget picture.</p><p></p><p>There is also a proposal of changing the pay structure for teachers to merit pay "just like those in the corporate world." The problem with that is that we don't work in the corporate world. I would happily work for merit pay if you give me the right to hire and fire my students. Just like a manager in the corporate world, I would only take the best and brightest and make sure that I didn't take those with low IQ's and attendance or behavior issues. I could <u>guarantee </u> you good test scores under those conditions. However, that is not how education works so judging teachers solely on their students' test scores is simply not fair. Students that only come to school 20% of the time will not do well no matter how hard I work to teach them Algebra 2. Period. What will end up happening is that teachers with seniority will all demand to teach the gifted and honors classes or transfer to high performing schools and new teachers like Nancy's daughter and my easy child will get the low level classes or be placed in the low performing schools. So those students that need experienced successful teachers the most will be the ones that get the new inexperienced teachers. My easy child is already talking about changing her major from math education to actuarial science. My advice was to stay out of the classroom.</p><p></p><p>What is really sad is that I love what I do and have had a very happy and fulfilling career. I just don't see a bright future for young people coming into the profession.</p><p></p><p>~Kathy</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kathy813, post: 345071, member: 1967"] I have deliberately stayed away from this thread as it was a thread like this that made me leave the board once before. I just can't stop myself though . . . Nancy ~ What planet does this woman live on? My school day lasts from 6:30 - 3:30 at a minimum and I am busy every minute of the day. Then I go home and grade papers at night and on the weekends (in fact, I just finished grading two sets of tests this morning). I spend my time off during the summer teaching summer school and online classes so that I can make a decent salary. EW ~ I feel your pain! The teachers here in Georgia that went through National Board Certification were promised a 10% raise for 10 years. This year, the governor and legislature decided it was too expensive and cut it effectively immediately no matter how many years were left in the original ten for the teachers that had worked so hard to obtain their NBC. We don't have unions (another common misconception especially if you listen to talk radio hosts) so there was nothing those teachers could do. A good friend of mine and his wife are both teachers with NBC and they lost 10,000 of their family income with a stroke of a pen. There is now talk of trying to get back at least 10% of a STARTING teachers pay for teachers with NB certification but it doesn't look good in the big budget picture. There is also a proposal of changing the pay structure for teachers to merit pay "just like those in the corporate world." The problem with that is that we don't work in the corporate world. I would happily work for merit pay if you give me the right to hire and fire my students. Just like a manager in the corporate world, I would only take the best and brightest and make sure that I didn't take those with low IQ's and attendance or behavior issues. I could [U]guarantee [/U] you good test scores under those conditions. However, that is not how education works so judging teachers solely on their students' test scores is simply not fair. Students that only come to school 20% of the time will not do well no matter how hard I work to teach them Algebra 2. Period. What will end up happening is that teachers with seniority will all demand to teach the gifted and honors classes or transfer to high performing schools and new teachers like Nancy's daughter and my easy child will get the low level classes or be placed in the low performing schools. So those students that need experienced successful teachers the most will be the ones that get the new inexperienced teachers. My easy child is already talking about changing her major from math education to actuarial science. My advice was to stay out of the classroom. What is really sad is that I love what I do and have had a very happy and fulfilling career. I just don't see a bright future for young people coming into the profession. ~Kathy [/QUOTE]
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