Arrgh. There's always one teacher, one class that is a pain ...

Discussion in 'General Parenting' started by TerryJ2, Sep 29, 2011.

  1. TerryJ2

    TerryJ2 Well-Known Member

    After posting my notes about Spanish class, I thought I'd just cut and paste the latest. Not much I can do from this distance, but I will definitely tackle it next week.

    Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 12:32 PM
    To: D J
    Subject: Re: C and Spanish Class

    Dear Ms. J,
    I am sorry that difficult child did not stay after with you yesterday. I am out of town
    but understand that he did do some Spanish homework. I hope he turned it in. If
    you can check what he has done and what he has remaining, I can make sure he
    does the rest of the work so he can catch up.
    I will also encourage him to copy your notes from the board.
    All the best,

    Dear Ms. Terry,
    difficult child did't bring the homework , and he only want to talk yesterday. I would
    appreciate that you have a conversation with him about this matter, and he have
    a succesfull spanish year.
    All my best,
    D J
  2. AnnieO

    AnnieO Shooting from the Hip

    Err.... Clearly this lady did not pay attention in her ESL classes...

    Obviously, the message is NOT.GETTING.THROUGH. to her.
  3. keista

    keista New Member

    Request an interpreter when you get to conference with her?

    Yes, Terry, I find that there is always at least one, isn't there? We haven't had a single semester since middle school where there wasn't at least one "standout"
  4. TerryJ2

    TerryJ2 Well-Known Member

    Sigh. Last yr it was the math teaher.
    Yr b4 that ... same math teacher. :(
    Yr b4 that, assistant pricipal.
    Yr b4 that, science and computer.

    Still, looking on the bright side, that means that all of the other teachers were either not a problem or even outstanding. I'm trying to be positive ...
  5. InsaneCdn

    InsaneCdn Well-Known Member

    If you have a student with special needs, and the teacher is not fluent in english, then the school needs to provide a third-party who can deal with both sides and avoid communication problems.
    JMO, of course, but... seriously? shouldn't be allowed to teach anything in US/Can without fluency in English (except Quebec, where equiv. is French).
  6. TerryJ2

    TerryJ2 Well-Known Member

    According to the counselor, he's got a 504 for assistance, but he does not have an IEP, nor does he have a learning disability.

    All I can do is meet with-the teacher in person next wk. I hope my Spanish holds up because she's not going to understand the concept in English.
  7. AnnieO

    AnnieO Shooting from the Hip

    If she doesn't understand, then clearly, he needs a different teacher.
  8. buddy

    buddy New Member

    Last edited: Sep 30, 2011
  9. Liahona

    Liahona Guest

    Of course there are those people who won't listen no matter what language. You'll not know if she is one of them until you get past the lang. barrier.

    Even if he doesn't have an IEP it would be good to ask for an interrupter. Unless your Spanish is excellent. I know some schools try to provide one to other non-IEP situations as well.
  10. TerryJ2

    TerryJ2 Well-Known Member

    I love the secret Post-it note idea!
    I want to sit in on the class and see how she operates. I asked the counselor and she directed me to the teacher, so it's between the teacher and me. I'll figure it all out next wk.
  11. susiestar

    susiestar Roll With It

    I had HUGE problems in college from grad assistants who taught labs and lower level classes and didn't speak English. I didn't think ANY school would hire someone who couldn't speak English to teach in elem, middle, jr high or high schools. Is this a private school or public? There are SO MANY teachers needing work right now that they sure as sugar had other options. Why on EARTH would they hire someone who couldn't speak English to teach to English speaking students?

    in my opinion the board of ed needs to hear about this. Maybe have a tape recorder with you in your bag to record her - if the principal can do the lesson then you won't go over his head to protest this person??

    It is not personal, it is a matter of basic qualifications - and this woman does NOT seem to have them. That type of thing made me crazy as a student, and as a parent I fight it when I can. Move my kid out of the class when I can't.

    "Class changes are not allowed" is a rule I do not recognize. It has been tried, and has failed, with each of my kids at least once. Just because they make it a policy or rule does NOT mean you must accept it, in my opinion.
  12. susiestar

    susiestar Roll With It

    You have EVERY right to know what this teacher scored on her TOEFL (test of english as a foreign language). In my state every teacher/grad assistant/instructor/professor must take and have a certain score on teh TOEFL before they can enter a classroom. Several times husband has been tapped last minute because a grad student was to teach a class and they discovered that teh TOEFL scores were too low or were faked. Students from certain countries seem to often get others to take their tests so the score is high enough, but when they cannot pass a basic conversation with the profs here it is easy to spot. Then they have to scramble to find someone to teach the class. It has also happened at our public schools, though husband only teaches at the university.

    Ask the principal to show you her TOEFL scores if you can't understand her. If she hasn't taken it, ask why they hired her when she clearly cannot communicate in a basic conversation in English.
  13. Malika

    Malika Well-Known Member

    The teacher obviously speaks English (judging from her email) though not perfectly. You say you have difficulty understanding her, Terry - is this because of her pronunciation/accent?