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Well after 2 years of saving and working and saving and selling things and working my kiester off? I had $1850 dollars saved to buy myself a new car.
I found one and drove 1.5 hours to see it, at night. The man was very nice.
Looked at the car, took it for a ride, a few things wrong, but for a 2000 - it was dooable. Or seemed so.
What happened in essence? We got scammed - and not just scammed - but I'll be polite.
How? The SUV - didn't have the miles stated. They rolled back the odometer 100,000 miles. The vehicle had been wrecked, welded. The transmission is shot and the title is all goobled up. Has a lien on it. OH LOVELY - Where was DF in all of this? Letting the guy put the title in the glove box and I thought he looked at it so I said - OKAY.
When i asked for a bill of sale? I was told the title served as a bill of sale. What do I know I've bought 1 car since I've been here in SC - that's why I'm buying another - so I can get to school and get a job- a job because I'm unemployed. And now? I've lost that job because I don't have a vehicle that will get me anywhere. OMG you have no idea how angry I am.
So I do all the leg work, find out who these people are- call all the agencies I can within the legal limits of the law - and no. No, these people broke no laws.
WHAT?
Odometer tampering isn't an offense? Nope. Not on a 10 year old vehicle.
Selling a car with a bad transmission, welded frame and bad motor after you advertised it in writing with 128K and it has 228k is not punishable by law? No no not really - it was your responsibility to check the veh. out. Once you paid for it - sale over.
What about the guy pretending to be another man who owned the title place? -
Well prove that even happened. Well I have an ad here showing where he's trying to do this again - what about that? Can we set up a sting and go get him? No...you can't touch him - what's he done really? WTH? (not my first choice of words)
Well what about the fact that the scam picture was taken IN THIS MANS FRONT YARD - does that count towards showing that he WAS involved even though he said he isn't? mmmmmm no not really it's just a picture.
So I spent a day driving to this police department 1.5 hours south of my home, and talking and spending 15 hours on my computer getting evidence about how these people have been taken to court numerous times, how it all ties together, how they all KNOW each other - and have for years - and the police said - Well I can call them - I'll start there.
So I leave thinking - he's going to do something and 15 minutes later - the officer calls my phone - tells me he's contacted the scammer, and that the scammer has agreed to cooperate 100% - will meet me at the DMV and sign any paperwork so I can just put this all behind me and be done with it.
WAHT? WHAT????????? WTH? Be done with it? Do you realize this is FRAUD? No no not really. You have proved nothing. All the paper work you brought in from these people I could have reproduced on my computer in 10 minutes.
OMW......am I fuming.......HOW can this man say this? HOW can I tie it all together for him - do my own research - SHOW him how it all ties together - and prove it - and deliver it and then him say - Well just meet the crook at the DMV and problem over??
I swear to you - this state.........this state can take a flying leap. I can't sell this car.....I can't put it in my name. It has 100k less on the odometer than it shows on the title - WHO would ever buy it from me? OMan that makes ME look like a crook - even if I DO get a certificate that says - Odometer isn't what car says. 100K........is NOT a few miles and here they do NOT write EXEMPT - it says actual miles.
This is a nightmare - I'm out 1850.00 all my hard earned cash. I'm out a job. DF feels so low he's about suicidal. And the police are about the most ridiculous bunch of ---(have no word I'm really at a loss) I mean tells me I bring in TOO much evidence...WHO has TOO much evidence??? Tells me I should have come in Monday - NOT Wed. Then tells me I should NOT have contacted the DMV that they are idiots, and then tells me my title is worthless - and then tells me I gave him WAY too much evidence.
Unreal - I have just completely lost my faith in our police departments here for good - I mean it - this is it.
I called the states atty office - they said call DMV. DMV says - they can't prosecute, but will turn it over to SLED. The SLED people can't do much - but will call me in a couple months. Mean while they tell me to call the local police and work with them to build a case because this is really a mess. NO KIDDING.....And then the cop dismisses me and feels like he's solved the crime when he gets the man that scammed me and ripped me off to sign the title? OMG I could have gotten that guy to do that MONDAY -
WHAT a twisted and pathetic world this is........
Love it -OH and I was told NOT to call the guys new ad, to try to "vigilante" the man that we met - because if I did? I would be arrested for kidnapping. 30 years in prison. NICE - VERY NICE. I was just going to try to get a picture of him so we could show someone who is the other 1/2 of this scam - you can't believe what this man told us. unreal -
I found one and drove 1.5 hours to see it, at night. The man was very nice.
Looked at the car, took it for a ride, a few things wrong, but for a 2000 - it was dooable. Or seemed so.
What happened in essence? We got scammed - and not just scammed - but I'll be polite.
How? The SUV - didn't have the miles stated. They rolled back the odometer 100,000 miles. The vehicle had been wrecked, welded. The transmission is shot and the title is all goobled up. Has a lien on it. OH LOVELY - Where was DF in all of this? Letting the guy put the title in the glove box and I thought he looked at it so I said - OKAY.
When i asked for a bill of sale? I was told the title served as a bill of sale. What do I know I've bought 1 car since I've been here in SC - that's why I'm buying another - so I can get to school and get a job- a job because I'm unemployed. And now? I've lost that job because I don't have a vehicle that will get me anywhere. OMG you have no idea how angry I am.
So I do all the leg work, find out who these people are- call all the agencies I can within the legal limits of the law - and no. No, these people broke no laws.
WHAT?
Odometer tampering isn't an offense? Nope. Not on a 10 year old vehicle.
Selling a car with a bad transmission, welded frame and bad motor after you advertised it in writing with 128K and it has 228k is not punishable by law? No no not really - it was your responsibility to check the veh. out. Once you paid for it - sale over.
What about the guy pretending to be another man who owned the title place? -
Well prove that even happened. Well I have an ad here showing where he's trying to do this again - what about that? Can we set up a sting and go get him? No...you can't touch him - what's he done really? WTH? (not my first choice of words)
Well what about the fact that the scam picture was taken IN THIS MANS FRONT YARD - does that count towards showing that he WAS involved even though he said he isn't? mmmmmm no not really it's just a picture.
So I spent a day driving to this police department 1.5 hours south of my home, and talking and spending 15 hours on my computer getting evidence about how these people have been taken to court numerous times, how it all ties together, how they all KNOW each other - and have for years - and the police said - Well I can call them - I'll start there.
So I leave thinking - he's going to do something and 15 minutes later - the officer calls my phone - tells me he's contacted the scammer, and that the scammer has agreed to cooperate 100% - will meet me at the DMV and sign any paperwork so I can just put this all behind me and be done with it.
WAHT? WHAT????????? WTH? Be done with it? Do you realize this is FRAUD? No no not really. You have proved nothing. All the paper work you brought in from these people I could have reproduced on my computer in 10 minutes.
OMW......am I fuming.......HOW can this man say this? HOW can I tie it all together for him - do my own research - SHOW him how it all ties together - and prove it - and deliver it and then him say - Well just meet the crook at the DMV and problem over??
I swear to you - this state.........this state can take a flying leap. I can't sell this car.....I can't put it in my name. It has 100k less on the odometer than it shows on the title - WHO would ever buy it from me? OMan that makes ME look like a crook - even if I DO get a certificate that says - Odometer isn't what car says. 100K........is NOT a few miles and here they do NOT write EXEMPT - it says actual miles.
This is a nightmare - I'm out 1850.00 all my hard earned cash. I'm out a job. DF feels so low he's about suicidal. And the police are about the most ridiculous bunch of ---(have no word I'm really at a loss) I mean tells me I bring in TOO much evidence...WHO has TOO much evidence??? Tells me I should have come in Monday - NOT Wed. Then tells me I should NOT have contacted the DMV that they are idiots, and then tells me my title is worthless - and then tells me I gave him WAY too much evidence.
Unreal - I have just completely lost my faith in our police departments here for good - I mean it - this is it.
I called the states atty office - they said call DMV. DMV says - they can't prosecute, but will turn it over to SLED. The SLED people can't do much - but will call me in a couple months. Mean while they tell me to call the local police and work with them to build a case because this is really a mess. NO KIDDING.....And then the cop dismisses me and feels like he's solved the crime when he gets the man that scammed me and ripped me off to sign the title? OMG I could have gotten that guy to do that MONDAY -
WHAT a twisted and pathetic world this is........
Love it -OH and I was told NOT to call the guys new ad, to try to "vigilante" the man that we met - because if I did? I would be arrested for kidnapping. 30 years in prison. NICE - VERY NICE. I was just going to try to get a picture of him so we could show someone who is the other 1/2 of this scam - you can't believe what this man told us. unreal -
