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<blockquote data-quote="Copabanana" data-source="post: 692845" data-attributes="member: 18958"><p>I believe this too.</p><p></p><p>From afar, I have not seen the leave or brexit position as purely insular, reactionary and anti-immigration. I have seen it in more class terms. My sense is that globalism has benefited some but had hurt many. And I see the brexit vote as more through that lens. Yes. A desire to return to a time where one understood life, felt more control, less victimized by forces one did not agree with, out of ones control, from another land and culture even. In the case of Britain, being dictated to by a prior enemy. Yes. The older people have not forgotten the wars and their historical cost. </p><p></p><p>I see Brexit as the desire to regain control over ones life and the terms one lives under. I see it as a conscious decision to risk financial disaster to regain and gain other things that are as important or more. </p><p></p><p>As far as young against old, I see this as class-based too. It is like here in California where people are forced out of long-time neighborhoods no longer affordable because immigration and the influx of highly educated young people who disdain you, are aligned with values one no one understands. </p><p></p><p>I am from such an area. While I have moved on, I feel sad that where my roots are no longer exists. </p><p></p><p>Honestly, I can understand Brexit. My sympathies lie with these people. My hopes too. I believe Brexit is more a vote of lack of confidence in those global leaders who have thought not at all on the consequences for the vast majority of people whom they represent and who decide for the deep pocket interests instead. </p><p></p><p>While I understand that in the long run global integration may benefit many in the long run, as individuals we live in the short run, and it is human nature to protect what we have and mourn what we lose.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Copabanana, post: 692845, member: 18958"] I believe this too. From afar, I have not seen the leave or brexit position as purely insular, reactionary and anti-immigration. I have seen it in more class terms. My sense is that globalism has benefited some but had hurt many. And I see the brexit vote as more through that lens. Yes. A desire to return to a time where one understood life, felt more control, less victimized by forces one did not agree with, out of ones control, from another land and culture even. In the case of Britain, being dictated to by a prior enemy. Yes. The older people have not forgotten the wars and their historical cost. I see Brexit as the desire to regain control over ones life and the terms one lives under. I see it as a conscious decision to risk financial disaster to regain and gain other things that are as important or more. As far as young against old, I see this as class-based too. It is like here in California where people are forced out of long-time neighborhoods no longer affordable because immigration and the influx of highly educated young people who disdain you, are aligned with values one no one understands. I am from such an area. While I have moved on, I feel sad that where my roots are no longer exists. Honestly, I can understand Brexit. My sympathies lie with these people. My hopes too. I believe Brexit is more a vote of lack of confidence in those global leaders who have thought not at all on the consequences for the vast majority of people whom they represent and who decide for the deep pocket interests instead. While I understand that in the long run global integration may benefit many in the long run, as individuals we live in the short run, and it is human nature to protect what we have and mourn what we lose. [/QUOTE]
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