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<blockquote data-quote="JJJ" data-source="post: 540646" data-attributes="member: 1169"><p>InsaneCdn -- I know, I know. 14+ADD is not a good combo, lol. </p><p></p><p>Ktllc -- That is it. She has mildly defined future goals but cannot see the path to get there. I think she thinks that she'll just skim through high school and college so she can get to the 'good part' of doing the job she wants. My cousin (who is Piglet's hero) has a similar job so she is going to talk to her next month when we visit about how important it is to truly learn the material as completely as possible and not just the bare minimum to pass the classes. </p><p></p><p>Chloedancer -- I agree that effort is more important than grades. But in her case, she is not putting in the effort to master the material, she is doing just enough to get a B- and calling it good enough. Most of the battles this summer have been about me wanting better effort from her to master the material, not just memorize and regurjitate some basic facts on a test. She has a 100% on homework/inclass work because she does do the worksheets that teacher gives her (75% of the time, they get 100% just for doing them, they aren't graded for completeness or accuracy). She an 86% on the tests because she is not putting in the effort to LEARN the material. I'm trying very hard to get her to understand how the material she is learning in this class (World History) is going to help her in future history and literature classes --if and only if--she actually LEARNS the material.</p><p></p><p>Malika -- I agree that in an ideal situation, she would be learning for the love of learning. And she does do that when dealing with her preferred subject. But the reality is that she must take 20 required courses at school and most of them are non-preferred subjects for her. However, the grades still count and the material must still be learned. I cannot imagine not giving logical consequences to a child who does not meet expectations. If you don't use every tool at your disposable (from praise to tutoring to consequences) to help your child do as well as possible in school, how will you feel when their dreams are derailed because they can't get into college, or they can't get the scholarship money that is necessary for them to attend. As parents, it is our job to listen to our child's dreams and help steer them in the right direction so that, once they are old enough they are ready to sail forward on their own. </p><p></p><p>KTMom91 -- I'll be thrilled if Eeyore can manage to graduate from high school with some basic trade skills so I get that! </p><p></p><p>DaisyFace -- Piglet gives good effort when it is something she is interested in doing. I do not think she could handle a top university because she would not put in the effort for the less preffered classes. I see her doing well in her subject area because she simply lights up when discussing it and combs the internet for information related to it. I think she will need to pick her university very carefully to have it match her interests and her very visual learning style. </p><p></p><p>Step -- Yep, I look at Kanga's A/B report card without comment since she has been 'given' grades her whole life. She is so far behind her peers that even giving her grades is silly. I love when she gets extra credit for coloring a picture quietly -- this is as a junior in high school. If Piglet was working her butt off, then I would be happy with the grades that happened but she isn't and our school has HUGE grade inflation with half of the class having a B+ or better average.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JJJ, post: 540646, member: 1169"] InsaneCdn -- I know, I know. 14+ADD is not a good combo, lol. Ktllc -- That is it. She has mildly defined future goals but cannot see the path to get there. I think she thinks that she'll just skim through high school and college so she can get to the 'good part' of doing the job she wants. My cousin (who is Piglet's hero) has a similar job so she is going to talk to her next month when we visit about how important it is to truly learn the material as completely as possible and not just the bare minimum to pass the classes. Chloedancer -- I agree that effort is more important than grades. But in her case, she is not putting in the effort to master the material, she is doing just enough to get a B- and calling it good enough. Most of the battles this summer have been about me wanting better effort from her to master the material, not just memorize and regurjitate some basic facts on a test. She has a 100% on homework/inclass work because she does do the worksheets that teacher gives her (75% of the time, they get 100% just for doing them, they aren't graded for completeness or accuracy). She an 86% on the tests because she is not putting in the effort to LEARN the material. I'm trying very hard to get her to understand how the material she is learning in this class (World History) is going to help her in future history and literature classes --if and only if--she actually LEARNS the material. Malika -- I agree that in an ideal situation, she would be learning for the love of learning. And she does do that when dealing with her preferred subject. But the reality is that she must take 20 required courses at school and most of them are non-preferred subjects for her. However, the grades still count and the material must still be learned. I cannot imagine not giving logical consequences to a child who does not meet expectations. If you don't use every tool at your disposable (from praise to tutoring to consequences) to help your child do as well as possible in school, how will you feel when their dreams are derailed because they can't get into college, or they can't get the scholarship money that is necessary for them to attend. As parents, it is our job to listen to our child's dreams and help steer them in the right direction so that, once they are old enough they are ready to sail forward on their own. KTMom91 -- I'll be thrilled if Eeyore can manage to graduate from high school with some basic trade skills so I get that! DaisyFace -- Piglet gives good effort when it is something she is interested in doing. I do not think she could handle a top university because she would not put in the effort for the less preffered classes. I see her doing well in her subject area because she simply lights up when discussing it and combs the internet for information related to it. I think she will need to pick her university very carefully to have it match her interests and her very visual learning style. Step -- Yep, I look at Kanga's A/B report card without comment since she has been 'given' grades her whole life. She is so far behind her peers that even giving her grades is silly. I love when she gets extra credit for coloring a picture quietly -- this is as a junior in high school. If Piglet was working her butt off, then I would be happy with the grades that happened but she isn't and our school has HUGE grade inflation with half of the class having a B+ or better average. [/QUOTE]
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