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<blockquote data-quote="Nomad" data-source="post: 307827"><p>I'm so sorry...so disappointing and stressful for all concerned.</p><p></p><p>When you put Borderline (BPD) in your description line, are you talking Borderline or Bipolar? Ironically, I have been trying to ascertain the best abbreviations on these. It seems most professionals use Borderline (BPD) for Borderline Personality Disorder, but many use it for Bipolar Disorder as well. As you know, the two can be comorbid.</p><p></p><p>A friend of mine, whose daughter has Borderline Personality disorder, has had good results with- using Prozac as part of her treatment. Of course, an SSRI would almost always be problematic with a Bipolar Patient. Same with the use of stimulants.</p><p></p><p>My daughter and many of the folks on these boards are reporting<strong> really </strong>good stabilization with <strong>Lamictal.</strong> These drug has the interesting result of stabilizing and a slight lifting property as well...without inducing mania.</p><p></p><p>It's very important to know which diagnosis you are dealing with-. And of course if one has both diagnosis's...its more complicated and those activating medications still have to be avoided.</p><p></p><p>Suicide ideation could very well be indicative of both Borderline and Bipolar...but it is probably more common with- Bipolar Disorder and Bipolar patients have the highest risk of completed suicide. Medication is imperative.</p><p></p><p>by the way, I have read that sometimes people with Bipolar Illness have problems with their memory. Certainly, anxiety issues are commonplace. </p><p></p><p>I personally think the idea of helping your son get on disability is not a bad one at all. Let it be known that the process is not easy. There are hoops to jump through. Honestly, the paperwork can be difficult ... but worth it for YOU and him if you honestly feel that working full time is just never (or not for many many years) in the cards for him.</p><p></p><p>Also, even on disability, a person can work part time and in fact, it is encouraged (when they are feeling better). A good friend of mine who helps care for her sister has helped her sister get on disability and get a part time job. It is (sadly) the only really good situation I have seen, but it is an excellent situation...almost IDEAL. This woman, who has severe mental illness, with govt help, is self sufficient and can hold her head up high...doing the very best she can with her disability. It is a very wonderful situation...one in which all parties can be very proud.</p><p></p><p>YOU, my friend, at a certain point, have to protect YOURSELF. You can't be burdened by constant worry about your son's safety and mental health. Tough love only goes so far if your son is severely mentally ill. Use the tough love to push him to do the best he can for himself...but if you see that his limitations are extreme...you can give him a hand..(I think they say give someone a hand not a hand out). Help him help himself. Help him get on a more even playing ground and then encourage him to do the very best he can from this point forward.</p><p></p><p>I'm unsure if his abuse of alcohol or drugs will influence a decision re: SSDI. Surely, you might have to be a payee on the account...because if he got a hold of money he might use it to buy alcohol or drugs. Please consider getting him in some sort of substance abuse treatment program or at least some sessions with a alcohol specialist...AA program...something.<strong> Consider a <u>Detox program</u> if you suspect he has a dependence issue. </strong></p><p></p><p></p><p> This is fire he is playing with.</p><p></p><p>For us, the disability process with our daughter was not super long...but a little frustrating. They kept on losing her paperwork. We received incredible cooperation from all her doctors. The deal is that if your child has a major mental illness, a physical illness and the cooperation of her physicians (at least two) then it will go through automatically. (Two serious health problems + physician cooperation and paperwork). That was the case with our daughter. They told us that this scenario happens like once in a million cases. After some weird problems with paperwork, it was approved immediately. Others tell me that it is customary to be turned down once or twice and then sometimes people hire disability attorneys. Disability attorneys are very good at what they do and tend to have an excellent track record...a high rate of success. </p><p></p><p>Side note: Consider getting your son to a psychiatrist PRONTO if he has not been to one recently...keep the paper trail going in terms of a diagnosis, etc. Also, does he have any medical problems other than psychiatric concerns? At least give this some thought.</p><p></p><p>I don't think disability attorneys will take the case unless you've been turned down once or twice previously. Sooo...if you are seriously about all of this....go on line check it out and fill out the paperwork asap. If you have to hire an attorney, the entire process from beginning (original application) to the end, might take well over a year. However, your son will get all the money from the original application ... back money...if he wins. </p><p></p><p>Hang in there.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nomad, post: 307827"] I'm so sorry...so disappointing and stressful for all concerned. When you put Borderline (BPD) in your description line, are you talking Borderline or Bipolar? Ironically, I have been trying to ascertain the best abbreviations on these. It seems most professionals use Borderline (BPD) for Borderline Personality Disorder, but many use it for Bipolar Disorder as well. As you know, the two can be comorbid. A friend of mine, whose daughter has Borderline Personality disorder, has had good results with- using Prozac as part of her treatment. Of course, an SSRI would almost always be problematic with a Bipolar Patient. Same with the use of stimulants. My daughter and many of the folks on these boards are reporting[B] really [/B]good stabilization with [B]Lamictal.[/B] These drug has the interesting result of stabilizing and a slight lifting property as well...without inducing mania. It's very important to know which diagnosis you are dealing with-. And of course if one has both diagnosis's...its more complicated and those activating medications still have to be avoided. Suicide ideation could very well be indicative of both Borderline and Bipolar...but it is probably more common with- Bipolar Disorder and Bipolar patients have the highest risk of completed suicide. Medication is imperative. by the way, I have read that sometimes people with Bipolar Illness have problems with their memory. Certainly, anxiety issues are commonplace. I personally think the idea of helping your son get on disability is not a bad one at all. Let it be known that the process is not easy. There are hoops to jump through. Honestly, the paperwork can be difficult ... but worth it for YOU and him if you honestly feel that working full time is just never (or not for many many years) in the cards for him. Also, even on disability, a person can work part time and in fact, it is encouraged (when they are feeling better). A good friend of mine who helps care for her sister has helped her sister get on disability and get a part time job. It is (sadly) the only really good situation I have seen, but it is an excellent situation...almost IDEAL. This woman, who has severe mental illness, with govt help, is self sufficient and can hold her head up high...doing the very best she can with her disability. It is a very wonderful situation...one in which all parties can be very proud. YOU, my friend, at a certain point, have to protect YOURSELF. You can't be burdened by constant worry about your son's safety and mental health. Tough love only goes so far if your son is severely mentally ill. Use the tough love to push him to do the best he can for himself...but if you see that his limitations are extreme...you can give him a hand..(I think they say give someone a hand not a hand out). Help him help himself. Help him get on a more even playing ground and then encourage him to do the very best he can from this point forward. I'm unsure if his abuse of alcohol or drugs will influence a decision re: SSDI. Surely, you might have to be a payee on the account...because if he got a hold of money he might use it to buy alcohol or drugs. Please consider getting him in some sort of substance abuse treatment program or at least some sessions with a alcohol specialist...AA program...something.[B] Consider a [U]Detox program[/U] if you suspect he has a dependence issue. [/B] This is fire he is playing with. For us, the disability process with our daughter was not super long...but a little frustrating. They kept on losing her paperwork. We received incredible cooperation from all her doctors. The deal is that if your child has a major mental illness, a physical illness and the cooperation of her physicians (at least two) then it will go through automatically. (Two serious health problems + physician cooperation and paperwork). That was the case with our daughter. They told us that this scenario happens like once in a million cases. After some weird problems with paperwork, it was approved immediately. Others tell me that it is customary to be turned down once or twice and then sometimes people hire disability attorneys. Disability attorneys are very good at what they do and tend to have an excellent track record...a high rate of success. Side note: Consider getting your son to a psychiatrist PRONTO if he has not been to one recently...keep the paper trail going in terms of a diagnosis, etc. Also, does he have any medical problems other than psychiatric concerns? At least give this some thought. I don't think disability attorneys will take the case unless you've been turned down once or twice previously. Sooo...if you are seriously about all of this....go on line check it out and fill out the paperwork asap. If you have to hire an attorney, the entire process from beginning (original application) to the end, might take well over a year. However, your son will get all the money from the original application ... back money...if he wins. Hang in there. [/QUOTE]
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