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<blockquote data-quote="klmno" data-source="post: 513407" data-attributes="member: 3699"><p>It's very different in some ways but similar to what you're saying in the sense that difficult child was required to do an anger man course and substnace abuse course prior to getting approval for release- also, he had to maintain good behavior for a min of 90 days prior to release. He had his release signed off on. The only person who can over-ride it under those circumstances is the director of Department of Juvenile Justice because he's considered a ward of the state, being a juvenile. The PO called the Department of Juvenile Justice facility and said the director emailed and agreed difficult child should have services so send him to detention reentry.</p><p></p><p>Now, our Department of Juvenile Justice system is split into two branches- the facility side (incarceration) and the court/csu side (the POs). A judge can either set the sentence length or let Department of Juvenile Justice do it and they let Department of Juvenile Justice do it, which menas the facility side uses this computer method to establish difficult child's sentence. IF in fact, the director over-rode the release date, WTH wouldn't she have called the facility herself and told them? She didn't- if she had, she would have had to give them a new projected release date because it's law here that every juvenile have a projected release date established. The staff at the Department of Juvenile Justice facility told me and difficult child that they changed his date to "dot dot dot" because they didn't know what else to do. The PO and others looked at difficult child's file and said well, the longest they could hold him was for the 21 mos so now PO is acting like he'll take his time and keep difficult child until May. And I'd bet my arm that POs real plan is to use this time trying to build a case that difficult child should never be returned to my custody. This stems from PO going off at me saying he had custody of difficult child while he was on parole and I flat out told him that no, he didn't. difficult child is no longer a ward of the state once released from incraceration and although he is monitored by PO and PO can violate him, difficult child is in my custody. I think both this PO and his super are used to working as probation officers, before a kid gets incarcerated so they have been able to jerk parents around and treat them like koi with the threat of having their kid incarcerated if they don't jump thru their hoops. Now, the only thing PO has to use is trying to prove difficult child shouldn't be in my custody but that has to be reviewed and approved by a judge and that's why he's trying to get documentation that I'm not cooperating. But I've got my own paper trail established and have attended every required mtg. I just haven't signed that parole plan but if that goes to court, we can then see what a judge thinks about that parole plan.</p><p></p><p>difficult child was give a range for a sentence- 15 to 21 mos I think it was. If he hadn't have completed his anger man course and sub abuse course, he would have had to stay incarcerated until May 16 then get released on parole under the condition that he completes those two courses while on parole.</p><p></p><p>He completed them already and was due to get out but this PO is now keeping him in until May 16 and one of his requirements while on parole will be a fourth anger man course.</p><p></p><p>All these things are in my complaints to Department of Juvenile Justice, aclu, and fed doj. I have found law after law that has been broken. State Department of Juvenile Justice and aclu have already stated they aren't going to do squat about it. I haven't heard back from fed doj yet.</p><p></p><p>As far as being ion parole- that does work differently here in the juvy system- there's no getting out of that. difficult child will be on parole until he's at least 18.</p><p></p><p>difficult child got to call again and told me some more about what PO has been saying. He's telling difficult child things like I am holding things up and attacking him but he's not going to let that slow him down and that's why he didn't take the time to answer any of my questions and difficult child said he's always trying to get difficult child to agree with him about stuff like this. But difficult child has it figured out and said his PO was avoiding answering his questions directly and always saying it's up to someone else- I went ahead and told him I'm going to try to move.</p><p></p><p>I just want to get in a situation where difficult child and I are spending our time and mental energy on what we should be instead of stressing over this PO doing under-handed koi like holding up difficult child's release by telling me a long term post d GH is a 30-60 day GH and when he knew I wouldn't agree with that and it required my written permmission- in Dec- sat there and didn't do squat about a transition parole plan or anything. BS he isn't the one holding things up.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="klmno, post: 513407, member: 3699"] It's very different in some ways but similar to what you're saying in the sense that difficult child was required to do an anger man course and substnace abuse course prior to getting approval for release- also, he had to maintain good behavior for a min of 90 days prior to release. He had his release signed off on. The only person who can over-ride it under those circumstances is the director of Department of Juvenile Justice because he's considered a ward of the state, being a juvenile. The PO called the Department of Juvenile Justice facility and said the director emailed and agreed difficult child should have services so send him to detention reentry. Now, our Department of Juvenile Justice system is split into two branches- the facility side (incarceration) and the court/csu side (the POs). A judge can either set the sentence length or let Department of Juvenile Justice do it and they let Department of Juvenile Justice do it, which menas the facility side uses this computer method to establish difficult child's sentence. IF in fact, the director over-rode the release date, WTH wouldn't she have called the facility herself and told them? She didn't- if she had, she would have had to give them a new projected release date because it's law here that every juvenile have a projected release date established. The staff at the Department of Juvenile Justice facility told me and difficult child that they changed his date to "dot dot dot" because they didn't know what else to do. The PO and others looked at difficult child's file and said well, the longest they could hold him was for the 21 mos so now PO is acting like he'll take his time and keep difficult child until May. And I'd bet my arm that POs real plan is to use this time trying to build a case that difficult child should never be returned to my custody. This stems from PO going off at me saying he had custody of difficult child while he was on parole and I flat out told him that no, he didn't. difficult child is no longer a ward of the state once released from incraceration and although he is monitored by PO and PO can violate him, difficult child is in my custody. I think both this PO and his super are used to working as probation officers, before a kid gets incarcerated so they have been able to jerk parents around and treat them like koi with the threat of having their kid incarcerated if they don't jump thru their hoops. Now, the only thing PO has to use is trying to prove difficult child shouldn't be in my custody but that has to be reviewed and approved by a judge and that's why he's trying to get documentation that I'm not cooperating. But I've got my own paper trail established and have attended every required mtg. I just haven't signed that parole plan but if that goes to court, we can then see what a judge thinks about that parole plan. difficult child was give a range for a sentence- 15 to 21 mos I think it was. If he hadn't have completed his anger man course and sub abuse course, he would have had to stay incarcerated until May 16 then get released on parole under the condition that he completes those two courses while on parole. He completed them already and was due to get out but this PO is now keeping him in until May 16 and one of his requirements while on parole will be a fourth anger man course. All these things are in my complaints to Department of Juvenile Justice, aclu, and fed doj. I have found law after law that has been broken. State Department of Juvenile Justice and aclu have already stated they aren't going to do squat about it. I haven't heard back from fed doj yet. As far as being ion parole- that does work differently here in the juvy system- there's no getting out of that. difficult child will be on parole until he's at least 18. difficult child got to call again and told me some more about what PO has been saying. He's telling difficult child things like I am holding things up and attacking him but he's not going to let that slow him down and that's why he didn't take the time to answer any of my questions and difficult child said he's always trying to get difficult child to agree with him about stuff like this. But difficult child has it figured out and said his PO was avoiding answering his questions directly and always saying it's up to someone else- I went ahead and told him I'm going to try to move. I just want to get in a situation where difficult child and I are spending our time and mental energy on what we should be instead of stressing over this PO doing under-handed koi like holding up difficult child's release by telling me a long term post d GH is a 30-60 day GH and when he knew I wouldn't agree with that and it required my written permmission- in Dec- sat there and didn't do squat about a transition parole plan or anything. BS he isn't the one holding things up. [/QUOTE]
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