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<blockquote data-quote="klmno" data-source="post: 513538" data-attributes="member: 3699"><p>No it's ok- I'm not asking you to back off and appreciate your perspective, whether it differs from mine or not. Your last post helped clarify things a bit on this particular point you're trying to make. About the number of POs- I'm not sure we're on the same page but it's not all that important. I don't count the two that were only in the picture short-term while difficult child was incarcerated. The first one I'm referring to was already out of the picture by the time I joined this board, but she was very good. I am certain that last propbation officer documented things about like this current one has and that the first parole officer documented that I was cooperative and that the problems at home and with difficult child were not caused by me- I'm certain of that because it came out in court. Also, that PO stated to me that the probation officer hadn't documented things accurately, but who knows if that is clear in the file or not. I'm not sure anyone would even read that far back because that was before difficult child's first commitment and it was like pulling teeth to even get this PO to read about the circumstances of this commitment.</p><p></p><p>Just for clarity because I don't think I've worded this well- when I mention the possibility of a new PO re-writing tthe current parole plan, I am meaning in terms of taking the goals that this PO has written and listing them under the objectives category on the form, where tthey should be and most POs would know this; then actually writing the measurable criteria down in the cataegory where the form states "list how these goals are to be met and measured (what steps are to be taken and by who, when, and how)". Now every other PO has been able to do that. So, it's not the goals I'm fussing over or even necessarily these services, although a new PO may or may not re-evaluate that it's not my major concern. I am going to be cooperative with this service coordinator tomorrow and let her know that should I move and the new PO keep this service, maybe this will save us some time and I will cooperate with her provider. I would prefer waiting until a new PO is on board to write and lock in difficult child's individualized service plan but am not going to make a big stink out of that- actually I'm not sure that gets done prior to the counselor coming on board and from what PO told difficult child, that won't be until the end of this month anyway. (Mind you, PO had told me it would only take a few days to get started if he went with this service.) I do want to ask her if she's had experience with reentry cases and with cases where it's not a kid who has been removed from the home or became delinquent because he grew up in a violent household, which according to their website, that's what they specialize in. A well needed service, in my humble opinion, but I'm not sure it's the most appropriate one for us. That doesn't mean I'll say that at the mtg tomorrow. I might ask the question though.</p><p></p><p>Now, should a new PO assume this PO documented accurately and I'm the witch from hades, and I walk into our first and subsequent appts saying I moved due to too much conflict with that PO, I'm always on time and cooperative with him, sign his papers and move on, then he would have no reason not to back up his part. This onee on the other hand has a vendetta and point he wants to prove. There's just too much water under the bridge and he's alrready proven to me that he can't be trusted. IOW, as long as I'm cooperating with all these other people at some point things become obvious- they will be seeing how PO wrote this parole plan and they will be able to tell it's not written correctly. Just like at one of the mtgs when he called the GH a "step-down, post-d, reunification plan" which everyone in the mtg knew in this state, those are 3 distinct and different types of programs.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="klmno, post: 513538, member: 3699"] No it's ok- I'm not asking you to back off and appreciate your perspective, whether it differs from mine or not. Your last post helped clarify things a bit on this particular point you're trying to make. About the number of POs- I'm not sure we're on the same page but it's not all that important. I don't count the two that were only in the picture short-term while difficult child was incarcerated. The first one I'm referring to was already out of the picture by the time I joined this board, but she was very good. I am certain that last propbation officer documented things about like this current one has and that the first parole officer documented that I was cooperative and that the problems at home and with difficult child were not caused by me- I'm certain of that because it came out in court. Also, that PO stated to me that the probation officer hadn't documented things accurately, but who knows if that is clear in the file or not. I'm not sure anyone would even read that far back because that was before difficult child's first commitment and it was like pulling teeth to even get this PO to read about the circumstances of this commitment. Just for clarity because I don't think I've worded this well- when I mention the possibility of a new PO re-writing tthe current parole plan, I am meaning in terms of taking the goals that this PO has written and listing them under the objectives category on the form, where tthey should be and most POs would know this; then actually writing the measurable criteria down in the cataegory where the form states "list how these goals are to be met and measured (what steps are to be taken and by who, when, and how)". Now every other PO has been able to do that. So, it's not the goals I'm fussing over or even necessarily these services, although a new PO may or may not re-evaluate that it's not my major concern. I am going to be cooperative with this service coordinator tomorrow and let her know that should I move and the new PO keep this service, maybe this will save us some time and I will cooperate with her provider. I would prefer waiting until a new PO is on board to write and lock in difficult child's individualized service plan but am not going to make a big stink out of that- actually I'm not sure that gets done prior to the counselor coming on board and from what PO told difficult child, that won't be until the end of this month anyway. (Mind you, PO had told me it would only take a few days to get started if he went with this service.) I do want to ask her if she's had experience with reentry cases and with cases where it's not a kid who has been removed from the home or became delinquent because he grew up in a violent household, which according to their website, that's what they specialize in. A well needed service, in my humble opinion, but I'm not sure it's the most appropriate one for us. That doesn't mean I'll say that at the mtg tomorrow. I might ask the question though. Now, should a new PO assume this PO documented accurately and I'm the witch from hades, and I walk into our first and subsequent appts saying I moved due to too much conflict with that PO, I'm always on time and cooperative with him, sign his papers and move on, then he would have no reason not to back up his part. This onee on the other hand has a vendetta and point he wants to prove. There's just too much water under the bridge and he's alrready proven to me that he can't be trusted. IOW, as long as I'm cooperating with all these other people at some point things become obvious- they will be seeing how PO wrote this parole plan and they will be able to tell it's not written correctly. Just like at one of the mtgs when he called the GH a "step-down, post-d, reunification plan" which everyone in the mtg knew in this state, those are 3 distinct and different types of programs. [/QUOTE]
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