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<blockquote data-quote="soapbox" data-source="post: 500087" data-attributes="member: 13003"><p>You can't fix a secondary problem, without fixing the primary problem.</p><p>And you can't fix the primary problem until you know what it is.</p><p></p><p>Just because he "can" hold it together if the reward is big enough, doesn't mean he actually "can" hold it together.</p><p></p><p>Lets see...</p><p>ADHD.</p><p>11... grade 4? 5? thereabouts, right?</p><p></p><p>He is likely ADHD <em>plus other stuff</em>.</p><p>And some of the <em>other stuff</em> is enough to drive anybody crazy.</p><p>And you will have NO idea what was actually going on, before he "talked back", but I'm guessing... the teacher thinks he has an attitude problem... when in fact, he has hidden, un-diagnosed disabilities.</p><p></p><p>Why? been there done that.</p><p></p><p>Yes he has an attitude.</p><p>WHY?</p><p>(School will NEVER ask that. SO you have to get to the bottom of it.)</p><p></p><p>There could be...</p><p>- LDs</p><p>- fine motor skills problems - even very subtle ones can sabotage writing, cutting, art, etc. </p><p>- auditory issues</p><p>- probably other stuff too but those are the ones I'm familiar with.</p><p></p><p>LDs - very high co-morbidity with ADHD.</p><p>Half the kids with ADHD have Developmental Coordination Disorder (DCD).</p><p>And 70% of the kids with ADHD and a Learning Disability (LD), have auditory processing problems of some sort...</p><p></p><p>AND... APDs look an awful lot like ADHD, in the classroom especially... while they can co-exist, the ADHD-type symptoms are NEVER flagged as a possible auditory problem.</p><p></p><p>So... </p><p>- Occupational Therapist (OT) evaluation for motor and sensory issues</p><p>- Speech Language Pathologist (SLP) evaluation for auditory processing - specifically ask about less commonly tested ones like auditory figure ground.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="soapbox, post: 500087, member: 13003"] You can't fix a secondary problem, without fixing the primary problem. And you can't fix the primary problem until you know what it is. Just because he "can" hold it together if the reward is big enough, doesn't mean he actually "can" hold it together. Lets see... ADHD. 11... grade 4? 5? thereabouts, right? He is likely ADHD [I]plus other stuff[/I]. And some of the [I]other stuff[/I] is enough to drive anybody crazy. And you will have NO idea what was actually going on, before he "talked back", but I'm guessing... the teacher thinks he has an attitude problem... when in fact, he has hidden, un-diagnosed disabilities. Why? been there done that. Yes he has an attitude. WHY? (School will NEVER ask that. SO you have to get to the bottom of it.) There could be... - LDs - fine motor skills problems - even very subtle ones can sabotage writing, cutting, art, etc. - auditory issues - probably other stuff too but those are the ones I'm familiar with. LDs - very high co-morbidity with ADHD. Half the kids with ADHD have Developmental Coordination Disorder (DCD). And 70% of the kids with ADHD and a Learning Disability (LD), have auditory processing problems of some sort... AND... APDs look an awful lot like ADHD, in the classroom especially... while they can co-exist, the ADHD-type symptoms are NEVER flagged as a possible auditory problem. So... - Occupational Therapist (OT) evaluation for motor and sensory issues - Speech Language Pathologist (SLP) evaluation for auditory processing - specifically ask about less commonly tested ones like auditory figure ground. [/QUOTE]
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