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Don't some of you have ?? invisible fences for your dogs?
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<blockquote data-quote="Andy" data-source="post: 562046" data-attributes="member: 5096"><p>We did something with Chewy that I just KNOW I will get criticized for but it worked for us. Chewy is a runner as in RUNNER! She also turned her ears off while running and would not return when called. She had to be tied up when outside even with us or she would be down the lakeshore or toward a busy road. We did not want to do the fence because we take her for walks daily and it would be too confusing to her why she could leave sometimes but not others. difficult child does not put a leash on her when he walks her. She also needed to stay closer while at our farm property where we would not be able to fence and where her sister chased a car and lost.</p><p></p><p>We have always taken the positive routes in all her training. Our own dog whisperer told us that we let her get away with much more then he would have allowed but admitted he was glad we took the route we did with patience and positive reinforcement.</p><p></p><p>So, we have this dog who we love that will not come when called and is putting herself in danger with her running. After trying everything possible, We made the very hard decision to get a shock collar. It is the kind with a pager and then we can set it as low as we want to slowly work up to get her attention. Our friend was just as hesitant as we were. He came over to see if we could figure out a training program without using the collar. He took her regular collar off and she bolted. He witnessed what we were up against and then agreed we would need to go this route to keep her safe. We use it ONLY to set boundaries and nothing else. After taking over 1/2 hour to catch her, we put on the collar. Our friend worked with difficult child to practice calling Chewy and giving her treats as she came. As soon as she got a chance, she bolted. difficult child paged her (vibration) and when that didn't work, then shocked her. She did not like that and came running to me. </p><p></p><p>Our friend also recommended that difficult child spend a lot of quality fun time with Chewy which he does. Chewy wore the collar for about a few months but only needed one or two more reminders to come when called. She has since then stayed close by without the shock collar on. The neighbors have also noticed and mentioned how better behaved Chewy is. Chewy can now be outside without being tied up and without the shock collar.</p><p></p><p>We have not abused her and would never use the collar for any training except setting boundaries. difficult child can now spend time playing with her outside without her bolting. She can also be out at the farm without the fear of getting lost in the woods or chasing cars on the road.</p><p></p><p>I would not recommend using a shock collar under any other circumstances. No need to critize because it really was needed in this situation to keep Chewy safe and allow her to run within limits. Yes, I know all about the negatives. That is why it was not an easy decision. We had pushed it aside as a non-option until nothing else worked. Chewy is still happy and healthy and comes now when called. She loves to be outdoors and run without being tied up. We did what needed to be done for her. I think a very important ingredient is that she gets so much positive time with us and this is so seldom needed that she is not living in fear of misbehaving wondering when and if a shock will come. She knows she is safe and loved.</p><p></p><p>My disclaimer: </p><p></p><p>Before getting a shock collar, I would recommend hesitating, hesitating, and hesitating more, try EVERYTHING else, talk to some one who knows how your breed of dog may behave with a shock collar, and really really really think about what is best for your dog. Just because it worked for Chewy doesn't mean it will work the same for another dog. Chewy defies logic in that she still behaves without the collar on. Most dogs will start misbehaving as soon as they get the collar off as they know the collar is what is shocking them. We were at the point that we were ready to put the collar on her everytime she went outside. We are super lucky she continues to behave without it and are on the lookout for a time she decides she can bolt again. Never over use the collar. It is not a training devise to teach tricks or potty training or to keep off furniture. It should not be used on puppies. To use it in setting boundaries, you do have to be outdoors and watching where the dog is. difficult child lets Chewy go halfway into the neighbors yard before calling her. The neighbor with the wireless fence have their dog also going halfway into either neighbors yard. We have great understanding neighbors otherwise it would not be allowed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Andy, post: 562046, member: 5096"] We did something with Chewy that I just KNOW I will get criticized for but it worked for us. Chewy is a runner as in RUNNER! She also turned her ears off while running and would not return when called. She had to be tied up when outside even with us or she would be down the lakeshore or toward a busy road. We did not want to do the fence because we take her for walks daily and it would be too confusing to her why she could leave sometimes but not others. difficult child does not put a leash on her when he walks her. She also needed to stay closer while at our farm property where we would not be able to fence and where her sister chased a car and lost. We have always taken the positive routes in all her training. Our own dog whisperer told us that we let her get away with much more then he would have allowed but admitted he was glad we took the route we did with patience and positive reinforcement. So, we have this dog who we love that will not come when called and is putting herself in danger with her running. After trying everything possible, We made the very hard decision to get a shock collar. It is the kind with a pager and then we can set it as low as we want to slowly work up to get her attention. Our friend was just as hesitant as we were. He came over to see if we could figure out a training program without using the collar. He took her regular collar off and she bolted. He witnessed what we were up against and then agreed we would need to go this route to keep her safe. We use it ONLY to set boundaries and nothing else. After taking over 1/2 hour to catch her, we put on the collar. Our friend worked with difficult child to practice calling Chewy and giving her treats as she came. As soon as she got a chance, she bolted. difficult child paged her (vibration) and when that didn't work, then shocked her. She did not like that and came running to me. Our friend also recommended that difficult child spend a lot of quality fun time with Chewy which he does. Chewy wore the collar for about a few months but only needed one or two more reminders to come when called. She has since then stayed close by without the shock collar on. The neighbors have also noticed and mentioned how better behaved Chewy is. Chewy can now be outside without being tied up and without the shock collar. We have not abused her and would never use the collar for any training except setting boundaries. difficult child can now spend time playing with her outside without her bolting. She can also be out at the farm without the fear of getting lost in the woods or chasing cars on the road. I would not recommend using a shock collar under any other circumstances. No need to critize because it really was needed in this situation to keep Chewy safe and allow her to run within limits. Yes, I know all about the negatives. That is why it was not an easy decision. We had pushed it aside as a non-option until nothing else worked. Chewy is still happy and healthy and comes now when called. She loves to be outdoors and run without being tied up. We did what needed to be done for her. I think a very important ingredient is that she gets so much positive time with us and this is so seldom needed that she is not living in fear of misbehaving wondering when and if a shock will come. She knows she is safe and loved. My disclaimer: Before getting a shock collar, I would recommend hesitating, hesitating, and hesitating more, try EVERYTHING else, talk to some one who knows how your breed of dog may behave with a shock collar, and really really really think about what is best for your dog. Just because it worked for Chewy doesn't mean it will work the same for another dog. Chewy defies logic in that she still behaves without the collar on. Most dogs will start misbehaving as soon as they get the collar off as they know the collar is what is shocking them. We were at the point that we were ready to put the collar on her everytime she went outside. We are super lucky she continues to behave without it and are on the lookout for a time she decides she can bolt again. Never over use the collar. It is not a training devise to teach tricks or potty training or to keep off furniture. It should not be used on puppies. To use it in setting boundaries, you do have to be outdoors and watching where the dog is. difficult child lets Chewy go halfway into the neighbors yard before calling her. The neighbor with the wireless fence have their dog also going halfway into either neighbors yard. We have great understanding neighbors otherwise it would not be allowed. [/QUOTE]
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