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<blockquote data-quote="Feeling Sad" data-source="post: 663229" data-attributes="member: 19245"><p>I was told by the police and legal assistants at the courthouse to file a restraining order. An eviction would take too long. Otherwise, the police could not remove him from my house. </p><p></p><p>I was told by several therapists and a psychiatrist that he could have killed us because of the voices. He is still considered to be dangerous to others out there. The therapists asked me if he knew what school I worked at. They said that he could hurt someone at an apartment or or at a job. </p><p></p><p>A mental health crisis member talked to him that day through his door about getting help...no answer. After 5 minutes, the police pulled him out, my youngest son said, and he lied about talking to the voices. He told them that he was talking out loud as he wrote and that he was joking about killing me. They could not do a 5150. He had a reasonable explanation. They saw many signs as to his illness, but not enough to involuntarily commit him. He has not worked, had friends, or gone to college in 9 years. He could take pretty good care of himself when I provide money and a place to live. Now, what?</p><p></p><p>I cannot see or talk to him now for 5 years because of the restraining order! He is not allowed to see or talk to me. I will probably never see or talk to him ever again! That is what is breaking my heart. I feel like I am going crazy. I have taken care of him for 35 years and now....nothing. I do not know how he is feeling. I can only hope that he seeks help or that he is brought in for strange behavior. He only talked to his voices in his room. He would have to get much worse for him to behave strangely in public. Also, there is a much greater risk of him committing suicide with his persecutors voices, than harming others.</p><p></p><p>I grew up seeing my sister when she stayed off and on at a mental institution. It was very bad. I know that with an involuntary commitment, they can still turn down medications. Now, there are advocates in the hospital that tell them what to say to refuse medications. Or, like in my other sisters case, they just throw the medications away. Both of my sisters had schizophrenia. </p><p></p><p>I tried in vain for 9 years to get him to see a doctor. You are right. He made excuses when he talked to voices. He told me that he was rehearsing or practicing his speech. The anosognisia, or lack of insight, makes it so they think you are sick, not them. The delusions and hallucinations greatly interfere. They see them as real. He thought that HE owned the house. He blamed me for everything. He feels that people are spying on him and just went out mostly at night. Now he is in front of everyone out there all the time!</p><p></p><p>I just have to hope for the best. My youngest son will be notified if he is arrested or brought in for strange behavior because he was never threatened and is not on the restraining order. He is safe here by proxi, I was told, although some therapists now say that he should get one for himself.</p><p></p><p>So I obsess about him hurting or killing himself, others, my youngest son, or me and there is nothing I can do about it. It is so difficult to even think about myself now. That is why I grab at any tiny bit of hope like bank wihdrawals, going to the shelter, and getting lab or immunology work done. He probably, I think, got a TB test to qualify to use the shelter for showering. But, I guess, that is something. </p><p></p><p>This is why I cannot forgive myself. I had to protect by youngest son. I had to choose between the two.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Feeling Sad, post: 663229, member: 19245"] I was told by the police and legal assistants at the courthouse to file a restraining order. An eviction would take too long. Otherwise, the police could not remove him from my house. I was told by several therapists and a psychiatrist that he could have killed us because of the voices. He is still considered to be dangerous to others out there. The therapists asked me if he knew what school I worked at. They said that he could hurt someone at an apartment or or at a job. A mental health crisis member talked to him that day through his door about getting help...no answer. After 5 minutes, the police pulled him out, my youngest son said, and he lied about talking to the voices. He told them that he was talking out loud as he wrote and that he was joking about killing me. They could not do a 5150. He had a reasonable explanation. They saw many signs as to his illness, but not enough to involuntarily commit him. He has not worked, had friends, or gone to college in 9 years. He could take pretty good care of himself when I provide money and a place to live. Now, what? I cannot see or talk to him now for 5 years because of the restraining order! He is not allowed to see or talk to me. I will probably never see or talk to him ever again! That is what is breaking my heart. I feel like I am going crazy. I have taken care of him for 35 years and now....nothing. I do not know how he is feeling. I can only hope that he seeks help or that he is brought in for strange behavior. He only talked to his voices in his room. He would have to get much worse for him to behave strangely in public. Also, there is a much greater risk of him committing suicide with his persecutors voices, than harming others. I grew up seeing my sister when she stayed off and on at a mental institution. It was very bad. I know that with an involuntary commitment, they can still turn down medications. Now, there are advocates in the hospital that tell them what to say to refuse medications. Or, like in my other sisters case, they just throw the medications away. Both of my sisters had schizophrenia. I tried in vain for 9 years to get him to see a doctor. You are right. He made excuses when he talked to voices. He told me that he was rehearsing or practicing his speech. The anosognisia, or lack of insight, makes it so they think you are sick, not them. The delusions and hallucinations greatly interfere. They see them as real. He thought that HE owned the house. He blamed me for everything. He feels that people are spying on him and just went out mostly at night. Now he is in front of everyone out there all the time! I just have to hope for the best. My youngest son will be notified if he is arrested or brought in for strange behavior because he was never threatened and is not on the restraining order. He is safe here by proxi, I was told, although some therapists now say that he should get one for himself. So I obsess about him hurting or killing himself, others, my youngest son, or me and there is nothing I can do about it. It is so difficult to even think about myself now. That is why I grab at any tiny bit of hope like bank wihdrawals, going to the shelter, and getting lab or immunology work done. He probably, I think, got a TB test to qualify to use the shelter for showering. But, I guess, that is something. This is why I cannot forgive myself. I had to protect by youngest son. I had to choose between the two. [/QUOTE]
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