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<blockquote data-quote="Andy" data-source="post: 164700" data-attributes="member: 5096"><p>We have a very old congregation. What is playing into this outrageous descision:</p><p> </p><p>1. Many of our older members are products of one room school houses - they don't understand why one teacher can not teach 6 grades these days. (at the last voters meeting someone pointed out that back than only reading, writing, and arithmetic were taught - no computers, art, etc. Curriculum has changed - no teacher wants to teach multi classes)</p><p> </p><p>2. Many of our members had kids who attended our school when 4th - 6th was in one class room (20 yrs ago).</p><p> </p><p>3. Many of our members do want to close the school because they don't want church money going into it. (SELFISH, SELFISH, SELFISH - someone always points our that not all our members send their kids there and many of the kids that go to school do not go to our church - JUST PLAIN SELFISH)</p><p> </p><p>4. We have very LARGE family units so just a few families can control the church. They brought ALL their relatives out of the woodwork (children who are away at college for example) to vote their way.</p><p> </p><p>5. Many people don't care what happens, as long as the church can meet budget (it's o.k. to hire a DCE intern for $23,000 + this coming year and manage to replace our retired church secretary with two part-time secretaries and still end up paying more for the two than for our one even though by going part time we don't pay insurance.</p><p> </p><p>6. Most of our older members believe that anything to do with the church and school should be all voluntary - You should never have to pay for anything - they believe because people have chosen that life that they shouldn't expect pay at all.</p><p> </p><p>7. For the most part, our task force told everyone that we have to do it their way to stay in budget - we can't use some assets to get through the next year because they are looking at a long term solution, not a short term fix.</p><p> </p><p>What hurts is that many of the members in favor of this just had their last child go through the school within the last 3 years and are willing to sabotage the school's future.</p><p> </p><p>The school board (especially husband) put tons of hours into this to make it work with what the congregation set for them (from $92,000 support to $30,000 support from the church) just to have it thrown back in their face saying, "Nope, not good enough - do it OUR way."</p><p> </p><p>Our cogregation is full of "sit on your butts don't dare offer to lift a finger to help but you better run things my way" kind of people. This will be the last straw for many good people and many will be looking for a new church. Then those who say good riddance will soon find that these members not only put in time but were also the bigger financial supporters. You know, those quiet financial supporters that everyone looks at and thinks they have no money but they actually do.</p><p> </p><p>And, one of the people pushing for this is a postal carrier who just changed routes so as not to loose wages but expects our teachers to willingly take a cut in pay.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Andy, post: 164700, member: 5096"] We have a very old congregation. What is playing into this outrageous descision: 1. Many of our older members are products of one room school houses - they don't understand why one teacher can not teach 6 grades these days. (at the last voters meeting someone pointed out that back than only reading, writing, and arithmetic were taught - no computers, art, etc. Curriculum has changed - no teacher wants to teach multi classes) 2. Many of our members had kids who attended our school when 4th - 6th was in one class room (20 yrs ago). 3. Many of our members do want to close the school because they don't want church money going into it. (SELFISH, SELFISH, SELFISH - someone always points our that not all our members send their kids there and many of the kids that go to school do not go to our church - JUST PLAIN SELFISH) 4. We have very LARGE family units so just a few families can control the church. They brought ALL their relatives out of the woodwork (children who are away at college for example) to vote their way. 5. Many people don't care what happens, as long as the church can meet budget (it's o.k. to hire a DCE intern for $23,000 + this coming year and manage to replace our retired church secretary with two part-time secretaries and still end up paying more for the two than for our one even though by going part time we don't pay insurance. 6. Most of our older members believe that anything to do with the church and school should be all voluntary - You should never have to pay for anything - they believe because people have chosen that life that they shouldn't expect pay at all. 7. For the most part, our task force told everyone that we have to do it their way to stay in budget - we can't use some assets to get through the next year because they are looking at a long term solution, not a short term fix. What hurts is that many of the members in favor of this just had their last child go through the school within the last 3 years and are willing to sabotage the school's future. The school board (especially husband) put tons of hours into this to make it work with what the congregation set for them (from $92,000 support to $30,000 support from the church) just to have it thrown back in their face saying, "Nope, not good enough - do it OUR way." Our cogregation is full of "sit on your butts don't dare offer to lift a finger to help but you better run things my way" kind of people. This will be the last straw for many good people and many will be looking for a new church. Then those who say good riddance will soon find that these members not only put in time but were also the bigger financial supporters. You know, those quiet financial supporters that everyone looks at and thinks they have no money but they actually do. And, one of the people pushing for this is a postal carrier who just changed routes so as not to loose wages but expects our teachers to willingly take a cut in pay. [/QUOTE]
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