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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 89032" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>The CHILD may have been trying to make amends but didn't tell the mother that's what she was doing - the mother may not have known. But why make the call? if this kid is as difficult and pushy as she sounds, chances are she's bullying her mother as well, getting her to do things for her. And if that sounds far-fetched - some kids really are like that, so are some mothers. It WOULD fit with this kid being a behaviour problem - no control at home.</p><p></p><p>However - I think it is more likely that this girl was NOT calling to apologise, but to carry on taunting now the teacher has made it difficult to do this at school. Again, the mother may not have known, or may only have the 'gospel according to daughter'.</p><p></p><p>My best friend is a lovely person but until very recently has had a blind spot towards her daughter. My friend will take people at face value. She takes on board what they tell her, and believes it. She's had a few friends in the past who lied to her; her daughter has lied to her about all sorts of things since she was very small and she's only just realising it. She then forgets where the 'information' came from and repeats it as if it is truth.</p><p>Example - her daughter was in a TV show as a singer. This girl has talent to burn and should have hit the big time years ago, she has had every opportunity handed to her on a plate. She walks into a room and totally takes over, always grandstanding. If she's visiting her mother, I give up on any chance of participating in the conversation.</p><p>This girl was dropped from the TV show. She then told her mother she didn't want to be a singer anyway, she didn't like the way she had no privacy, there were groupies outside her flat and she couldn't go anywhere without being mobbed. But I knew where she lived, my kids walked to school past her place, there were never any groupies. I've been out and about with the girl and her mother, I've never heard anyone rush up and ask for an autograph. So I always had my doubts - this girl deliberately sabotages success because although she has the talent, she is not prepared to work at it and doesn't cope with competition.</p><p>So I'm sitting with my friend who is finally admitting she thinks her daughter has a serious personality disorder (try Narcissistic Personality Disorder as a start). "She's been lying to me for years, it's like breathing for her," my friend said.</p><p>I said, "I think she is afraid of success because she would have to work at it AND deal with competing."</p><p>Her mother said, "Oh, no, she just doesn't like to be hounded. Remember the TV show, she was constantly hounded then."</p><p>"Who told you?"</p><p>"She did - oh."</p><p>Yep. She is finally realising that when you are lied to, you have to begin to question EVERYTHING.</p><p></p><p>But my point is, a mother will believe her own child and also be used by her own child, often compounding a problem without realising.</p><p></p><p>I'm with the "tell the teacher, do not allow communication without supervision," group.</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 89032, member: 1991"] The CHILD may have been trying to make amends but didn't tell the mother that's what she was doing - the mother may not have known. But why make the call? if this kid is as difficult and pushy as she sounds, chances are she's bullying her mother as well, getting her to do things for her. And if that sounds far-fetched - some kids really are like that, so are some mothers. It WOULD fit with this kid being a behaviour problem - no control at home. However - I think it is more likely that this girl was NOT calling to apologise, but to carry on taunting now the teacher has made it difficult to do this at school. Again, the mother may not have known, or may only have the 'gospel according to daughter'. My best friend is a lovely person but until very recently has had a blind spot towards her daughter. My friend will take people at face value. She takes on board what they tell her, and believes it. She's had a few friends in the past who lied to her; her daughter has lied to her about all sorts of things since she was very small and she's only just realising it. She then forgets where the 'information' came from and repeats it as if it is truth. Example - her daughter was in a TV show as a singer. This girl has talent to burn and should have hit the big time years ago, she has had every opportunity handed to her on a plate. She walks into a room and totally takes over, always grandstanding. If she's visiting her mother, I give up on any chance of participating in the conversation. This girl was dropped from the TV show. She then told her mother she didn't want to be a singer anyway, she didn't like the way she had no privacy, there were groupies outside her flat and she couldn't go anywhere without being mobbed. But I knew where she lived, my kids walked to school past her place, there were never any groupies. I've been out and about with the girl and her mother, I've never heard anyone rush up and ask for an autograph. So I always had my doubts - this girl deliberately sabotages success because although she has the talent, she is not prepared to work at it and doesn't cope with competition. So I'm sitting with my friend who is finally admitting she thinks her daughter has a serious personality disorder (try Narcissistic Personality Disorder as a start). "She's been lying to me for years, it's like breathing for her," my friend said. I said, "I think she is afraid of success because she would have to work at it AND deal with competing." Her mother said, "Oh, no, she just doesn't like to be hounded. Remember the TV show, she was constantly hounded then." "Who told you?" "She did - oh." Yep. She is finally realising that when you are lied to, you have to begin to question EVERYTHING. But my point is, a mother will believe her own child and also be used by her own child, often compounding a problem without realising. I'm with the "tell the teacher, do not allow communication without supervision," group. Marg [/QUOTE]
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