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<blockquote data-quote="BusynMember" data-source="post: 294772" data-attributes="member: 1550"><p>Hi, Witz. To be honest, I never did any drugs at all so it was hard for me to think "drugs" when my daughter started to change. I'll try to write out what I noticed and what happened, but it's been a while. It all started for her when she was twelve and we moved and she didn't have any friends. She was very shy. She sat alone at lunch. The "cool" kids wanted nothing to do with the new, shy kid. It was the "offbeat" outcasts and druggies who befriended her. What we noticed. Before I list what I saw, let me say the drugs used today are different. Stimulants, uppers are very big, which make the kids rage and go nuts. Then often they take downers to get to sleep. Ok, the list (not completely accurate):</p><p></p><p>1/She suddenly had a bunch of friends</p><p></p><p>2/She started getting very mouthy and defiant and her grades fell to the floor. She was out all the time and never told us the truth about where she was. Although we didn't know it at the time, she became a cutter. She cut only where we couldn't see, like the soles of her feet, but she cut a lot. She told us it was very hard to quit cutting--it was addictive. </p><p></p><p>3/All of that intensified and the rages started. She started smoking cigarettes after a lifetime of making a big production out of how much she hated smoke. </p><p></p><p>4/She would get so angry she would bang her head on the wall and threaten to kill herself along with the endearing "I hate you. I'm not going to listen to you." Insert the cussing.</p><p></p><p>5/She would sneak out her window at night and run around until one night a cop brought her home for being out after curfew. By now she was 15 or 16 and had been busted once for pot. She swore it was only pot and just once and told us that she HATED drinking, NEVER drank. She was very convincing.</p><p></p><p>6/She would lie with real tears and stare straight into our eyes while she lied. At the same time, she became more secretive. The rages continued. School called with concerns and bad grades. She cut classes. She forged letters that said she had to leave early. She was arrested for shoplifted. </p><p></p><p>7/Intensified. The opposition got worse. Her friends were scary looking. She refused to listen to anything we said. Totally out of control. One minute she'd be ok, the next she'd be crazy. She was homeschooling by now and tended to sleep all day and do drugs at night when we were sleeping. At the time we thought she was only smoking pot from time to time. We believed she had bipolar and enforced the BiPolar (BP) medications the best we could. She didn't take the BiPolar (BP) medications. She and her friends were using ADHD medications, crushing them in a pillcrusher and snorting them both alone, with over the counter drugs and with cocaine. I was flabbergasted when I heard. I never realized ADHD drugs were in demand or snorted. Adderrall was their pill of choice. It goes for $10/pill on the street.</p><p></p><p>8/When she was out we searched her room and found several knives under the mattress. When confronted, she had a rage and threatened to kill herself. The cops came and took her to a psychiatric hospital in which she was drug tested and we were told she was clean; that she had promised them she never took drugs anymore. She was there for three weeks and put on BiPolar (BP) medications again. She hated the way they made her feel (funny, considering the other junk in her system). She continued to mostly sleep all day and go out at night. The cops would often bring her home when she managed to get out.</p><p></p><p>9/She got so angry she put her fist through a window. We found out she was getting some of her drugs from an adult MOTHER of one of her "friends." She was selling as well as using because, as she now tells me, if you use drugs, you also sell them. They go together. She was drinking heavily along with popping pills and snorting. </p><p></p><p>10/To make a long story short, it accumulated and we had to make her leave for the sake of our two younger kids who were scared when the cops would drop over, and it became more common. She raged at us that she hated us and would never speak to us again.</p><p></p><p>Once she was out of the house, she moved in with her straight arrow brother who lived in another state. He was very strict with her and she listened to him. By then, she was ready to quit and scared, and this was her last place to stay before the streets. She got off the drugs and is doing well seven years later. She has told me she did ADHD medications, cocaine, heroine twice (that scared me to death--I never dreamed it), ecstacy, heavy drinking, pot of course but it became minor, and many over the counter drugs. She said the big thing now is huffing. She did not huff. She has told me more than a mother wants to know. I realize I could have lost her, but I was so naive I didn't even know she was that heavily into drugs. She had only been caught smoking pot. </p><p></p><p>Suffice to say, a very good kid turned into a monster almost overnight and my hub (her stepdad) and me had no idea how to stop it. If we'd known, we would have gotten drug treatment for her, but we kept being told she had bipolar <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" /><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/emoticons/faint.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":faint:" title="faint :faint:" data-shortname=":faint:" />.</p><p></p><p>I wish you luck. Please keep us posted.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BusynMember, post: 294772, member: 1550"] Hi, Witz. To be honest, I never did any drugs at all so it was hard for me to think "drugs" when my daughter started to change. I'll try to write out what I noticed and what happened, but it's been a while. It all started for her when she was twelve and we moved and she didn't have any friends. She was very shy. She sat alone at lunch. The "cool" kids wanted nothing to do with the new, shy kid. It was the "offbeat" outcasts and druggies who befriended her. What we noticed. Before I list what I saw, let me say the drugs used today are different. Stimulants, uppers are very big, which make the kids rage and go nuts. Then often they take downers to get to sleep. Ok, the list (not completely accurate): 1/She suddenly had a bunch of friends 2/She started getting very mouthy and defiant and her grades fell to the floor. She was out all the time and never told us the truth about where she was. Although we didn't know it at the time, she became a cutter. She cut only where we couldn't see, like the soles of her feet, but she cut a lot. She told us it was very hard to quit cutting--it was addictive. 3/All of that intensified and the rages started. She started smoking cigarettes after a lifetime of making a big production out of how much she hated smoke. 4/She would get so angry she would bang her head on the wall and threaten to kill herself along with the endearing "I hate you. I'm not going to listen to you." Insert the cussing. 5/She would sneak out her window at night and run around until one night a cop brought her home for being out after curfew. By now she was 15 or 16 and had been busted once for pot. She swore it was only pot and just once and told us that she HATED drinking, NEVER drank. She was very convincing. 6/She would lie with real tears and stare straight into our eyes while she lied. At the same time, she became more secretive. The rages continued. School called with concerns and bad grades. She cut classes. She forged letters that said she had to leave early. She was arrested for shoplifted. 7/Intensified. The opposition got worse. Her friends were scary looking. She refused to listen to anything we said. Totally out of control. One minute she'd be ok, the next she'd be crazy. She was homeschooling by now and tended to sleep all day and do drugs at night when we were sleeping. At the time we thought she was only smoking pot from time to time. We believed she had bipolar and enforced the BiPolar (BP) medications the best we could. She didn't take the BiPolar (BP) medications. She and her friends were using ADHD medications, crushing them in a pillcrusher and snorting them both alone, with over the counter drugs and with cocaine. I was flabbergasted when I heard. I never realized ADHD drugs were in demand or snorted. Adderrall was their pill of choice. It goes for $10/pill on the street. 8/When she was out we searched her room and found several knives under the mattress. When confronted, she had a rage and threatened to kill herself. The cops came and took her to a psychiatric hospital in which she was drug tested and we were told she was clean; that she had promised them she never took drugs anymore. She was there for three weeks and put on BiPolar (BP) medications again. She hated the way they made her feel (funny, considering the other junk in her system). She continued to mostly sleep all day and go out at night. The cops would often bring her home when she managed to get out. 9/She got so angry she put her fist through a window. We found out she was getting some of her drugs from an adult MOTHER of one of her "friends." She was selling as well as using because, as she now tells me, if you use drugs, you also sell them. They go together. She was drinking heavily along with popping pills and snorting. 10/To make a long story short, it accumulated and we had to make her leave for the sake of our two younger kids who were scared when the cops would drop over, and it became more common. She raged at us that she hated us and would never speak to us again. Once she was out of the house, she moved in with her straight arrow brother who lived in another state. He was very strict with her and she listened to him. By then, she was ready to quit and scared, and this was her last place to stay before the streets. She got off the drugs and is doing well seven years later. She has told me she did ADHD medications, cocaine, heroine twice (that scared me to death--I never dreamed it), ecstacy, heavy drinking, pot of course but it became minor, and many over the counter drugs. She said the big thing now is huffing. She did not huff. She has told me more than a mother wants to know. I realize I could have lost her, but I was so naive I didn't even know she was that heavily into drugs. She had only been caught smoking pot. Suffice to say, a very good kid turned into a monster almost overnight and my hub (her stepdad) and me had no idea how to stop it. If we'd known, we would have gotten drug treatment for her, but we kept being told she had bipolar :frowny::knockedout:. I wish you luck. Please keep us posted. [/QUOTE]
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