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<blockquote data-quote="TeDo" data-source="post: 448640"><p>frostie, I'm just going to explain what happened with my difficult child and let you draw your own conclusions about your daughter. My son fit all those criteria to a T. He still does to a certain extent but now that I know WHY he's like this, it's much easier to deal with the causes instead of the behaviors. My son is on the Autism Spectrum (NOW they tell me, ugh) and none of his behaviors were intentionally ODD. That's just the way us adults interpreted them without knowing the WHY's behind it all.</p><p></p><p> - He lacks the skills to handle situations in an "appropriate" manner ie. he struggles to put his thoughts and feelings into words.</p><p></p><p> - His point of view and way of thinking is different than the adults more logical thinking and they weren't understanding his.</p><p></p><p> - He needs to know WHY the rules are as they are to better understand how he's supposed to follow them. He is also a black-and-white literal thinker so he needs to know EXACTLY what the rule entails.</p><p></p><p> - It appeared "intenional" to the adults until the diagnosis revealed he really didn't UNDERSTAND enough to comply until things started being explained differently to him.</p><p></p><p> - He lacks the "appropriate" social skills to realize he is annoying or upsetting anyone.</p><p> - He really doesn't understand some of the cause-effect relationship in many things involving other people.</p><p></p><p> - He has many sensory issues with touch, sound, and smell.</p><p></p><p> - He displays anger when he is frustrated which was very frequently until we got the correct diagnosis.</p><p></p><p> - He didn't know how to handle the feeling appropriately. It is something we are teaching him.</p><p></p><p> - He was hurting from lacking skills that people misinterpreted and handled incorrectly. Instead of teaching him what we now know he needs to be actively taught, we were all punishing him for doing it "wrong". He became depressed which at his age came out as anger and vengeful before he became the kind of depressed I can identify.</p><p></p><p></p><p>This is all just from my personal experience. I feel extremely guilty for accepting the ODD diagnosis and for putting him through those 6 years of "torture" dealing with him inappropriately. I just don't want you to get locked into one way of thinking. The ODD <em><u>could</u></em> be something else entirely and you just don't know it yet. I would push for an accurate diagnosis through more extensive testing by a neuropsychologist.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TeDo, post: 448640"] frostie, I'm just going to explain what happened with my difficult child and let you draw your own conclusions about your daughter. My son fit all those criteria to a T. He still does to a certain extent but now that I know WHY he's like this, it's much easier to deal with the causes instead of the behaviors. My son is on the Autism Spectrum (NOW they tell me, ugh) and none of his behaviors were intentionally ODD. That's just the way us adults interpreted them without knowing the WHY's behind it all. - He lacks the skills to handle situations in an "appropriate" manner ie. he struggles to put his thoughts and feelings into words. - His point of view and way of thinking is different than the adults more logical thinking and they weren't understanding his. - He needs to know WHY the rules are as they are to better understand how he's supposed to follow them. He is also a black-and-white literal thinker so he needs to know EXACTLY what the rule entails. - It appeared "intenional" to the adults until the diagnosis revealed he really didn't UNDERSTAND enough to comply until things started being explained differently to him. - He lacks the "appropriate" social skills to realize he is annoying or upsetting anyone. - He really doesn't understand some of the cause-effect relationship in many things involving other people. - He has many sensory issues with touch, sound, and smell. - He displays anger when he is frustrated which was very frequently until we got the correct diagnosis. - He didn't know how to handle the feeling appropriately. It is something we are teaching him. - He was hurting from lacking skills that people misinterpreted and handled incorrectly. Instead of teaching him what we now know he needs to be actively taught, we were all punishing him for doing it "wrong". He became depressed which at his age came out as anger and vengeful before he became the kind of depressed I can identify. This is all just from my personal experience. I feel extremely guilty for accepting the ODD diagnosis and for putting him through those 6 years of "torture" dealing with him inappropriately. I just don't want you to get locked into one way of thinking. The ODD [I][U]could[/U][/I] be something else entirely and you just don't know it yet. I would push for an accurate diagnosis through more extensive testing by a neuropsychologist. [/QUOTE]
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