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<blockquote data-quote="BusynMember" data-source="post: 629231" data-attributes="member: 1550"><p>Personally, I think since one can say "I'm an atheist" anyone should be allowed to share what helps them. This poster is not trying to convert any of us.</p><p></p><p>I would call myself spiritual, but certainly not religious and I have gotten tons out of 12 Step. I had atheists in my group too. You don't need to make these sources religious unless you want to. in my opinion they are still good common sense.</p><p></p><p>The National Alliance for the Mentally Ill is not faith based at all. Neither are therapists who work for the county. I've gone to all of them.</p><p></p><p>The main message, whether tied to a certain religion or none is all, seems to come down to "Take care of yourself. Work on what you can control. Understand and accept that you can not change anyone else other than yourself." I have really not heard anyone tell me that I can do anything else and I'm glad because otherwise I'd be trying to change a grown up person who would not change and, at the same time, probably I'd neglect my other loved ones and I'd have no life of my own apart from trying to fix everyone around me whom I thought needed help. Even if you took God out of my favorite prayer, I believe it would make the same good sense:</p><p></p><p>"Grant me the SERENITY to accept the things I can not change,</p><p>The COURAGE to change the things I can,</p><p>And the WISDOM to know the difference."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BusynMember, post: 629231, member: 1550"] Personally, I think since one can say "I'm an atheist" anyone should be allowed to share what helps them. This poster is not trying to convert any of us. I would call myself spiritual, but certainly not religious and I have gotten tons out of 12 Step. I had atheists in my group too. You don't need to make these sources religious unless you want to. in my opinion they are still good common sense. The National Alliance for the Mentally Ill is not faith based at all. Neither are therapists who work for the county. I've gone to all of them. The main message, whether tied to a certain religion or none is all, seems to come down to "Take care of yourself. Work on what you can control. Understand and accept that you can not change anyone else other than yourself." I have really not heard anyone tell me that I can do anything else and I'm glad because otherwise I'd be trying to change a grown up person who would not change and, at the same time, probably I'd neglect my other loved ones and I'd have no life of my own apart from trying to fix everyone around me whom I thought needed help. Even if you took God out of my favorite prayer, I believe it would make the same good sense: "Grant me the SERENITY to accept the things I can not change, The COURAGE to change the things I can, And the WISDOM to know the difference." [/QUOTE]
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