How can he want to give up when he hasn't even

Fran

Former desparate mom
I know the feeling of being burnt out at trying to figure out what works, what doesn't and how to help difficult child. We work harder at making their lives work than they do. The knowledge that they are not equipped with the same abilities as average makes us really try to help them get through the bumps.
I just want to jump up and down and scream "just do it". I hear ya' RM.
We came to the conclusion that we have poured a great deal of effort,research and money into difficult child. It probably was the right thing to do but now our approach is much more selective. We will not allow ourself to be relegated to eating catfood in our old age because we want to try one more expensive program that difficult child isn't vested in.
We won't cut him off from all assistance(I won't let him go hungry or homeless unless that is his choice) but we are really working on "do to get" and "look at yourself as you really are and do something about what you don't like".

If difficult child wants to give up then does he want you and husband to give up too? Does difficult child want you to stop trying to help him? My difficult child always says No. If he gives up then he should know that you will give up making the effort. You will love him and support good choices but you can't work harder at his success than he does. You can't give up everytime it's hard. It's a tough lesson for easy child's and it's 3 times as hard with difficult children.
Hugs.
 

Sunlight

Active Member
I would ask him "THEN WHAT??"
so he gives up...then what?
what is next? remind him suicide means no more nothing.
remind him he has lots of options in the "then what" stuff.
he can finish the program..then what??
he can get a job..then what?
he might meet a nice girl...then what?
loads of possibilities.

his way...then what???
the end of any thing at all.
 

rejectedmom

New Member
As usual your advice is very valuable to me. I think I will probably follow a combination of everyone's advice here. If he chooses to stay in prison longer than he has to that is his choice whether he admits it or not. I will write but I will not visit him. If he wants to see me then he will have to get out of prison to do that. I will not feel guilty about that or his plight. He is where he is because he didn't heed my advice didn't internalize the lessons we spent a lifetime tryng to teach him. It isn't our fault. I will not play into his "poor me" attitude. I will speak the truth to him with love but I will not candy coat it. I have no animosity toward him just a general frustration and sadness. I will not be his victim again whether it is intentional or otherwise. I will not sacrifice my own nor my husband's needs in favor of difficult child's. I will ask difficult child the 'then what' questions as they come up. I won't pay for anything I am not absolutely sure will help difficult child get better or survive on his own. I will provide healthy emotional support and help him with paperwork and other executive functions he has difficulty with. I will not take him under my roof but will help him as long as he is helping himself. We have always done the 'do to get' thing with difficult child just not in all aspects of his life but we will begin to expand into that. From reading all the posts reguarding RTCs and other programs I am convinced that difficult child can do as well in an outpatient as in a Residential Treatment Center (RTC) in spite of what his therapist says. The key piece being that he is vested in the programs he is plugged into. husband and I are allowed to carry him on our new insurance until he is 23 even if he is not in school. We will do that and then if he doesn't have a job with benifits I wil help him apply for public assistance. I have learned much this past year as to what is available thanks to my good friends here on the board. Thank you all for helping me to get grounded each and every time I begin to wobble. -RM
 

Sunlight

Active Member
wow! you could probably start giving seminars on this stuff...lol
I always say I wish I didnt know what ant made me learn!
 
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